Discussion: Spies and Espionage - Soon I hope.

[Aro]

After the next few wars, we'll start a new era... the Cold War!
Spies, nukes, ONU...

Back to 60's!

[Meshelic]

Hmm....we wouldn't have a Soviet Union to oppose (or a U.S.A. depending on where you're from...!).

I wish Civil Wars still occured, like they did in Civ II, can you imagine? If half of Apolyton broke away and seceded....who would lead the other half???

Ah the possibilities....maybe Civ4 should reinstate such things....

[Arnelos]

Originally posted by Meshelic
I wish Civil Wars still occured, like they did in Civ II, can you imagine? If half of Apolyton broke away and seceded....who would lead the other half???

Don't you mean original Civilization?

I never saw a civil war in Civ2, though I could have just been EXTREMELY unlucky.

I loved the civil wars in original Civilization, though... they made the game a lot of fun

[Meshelic]

Actually I never played the original, only the second one. And yes, civil war's DO happen in CivII....I agree, they made the game ALOT of fun!

Okay enough of threadjacking MSS's thread...

I agree with Aro's comments near the top: Rome, Japan, India and Greece should be on our top priority for sabotage and spying on....they pose the most threat to us now out of all the other civz, and they are nearest us in power, culture, etc....

[roadcage]

A place spy mission is not expensive. It is just that it is almost always unsuccessful. I have only been successful when the target civ was commie, or monarch or anarchy. I have 100% failure rate against republic and democracy. And have never been interested in placing a spy within a despot.

The best thing about the cia and placing spies, is that it is a good way to get a democracy to declare war on you.

Come to think of it, that's an powerful arrow in the quiver of the progressive warmonger!

[Meshelic]

Originally posted by roadcage

Come to think of it, that's an powerful arrow in the quiver of the progressive warmonger!

[Arnelos]

Espionage is overly expensive for my tastes unless you're ALREADY in a war and need that troop information (which is pretty rare with the stupidity of the AI) or you want to CAUSE A WAR.

In my opinion, given the explicit purpose I usually use spies for (causing wars), allowing the use of spies should only take place if a war resolution with a given civ has already passed.

[Panag]

Originally posted by Arnelos


Don't you mean original Civilization?

I never saw a civil war in Civ2, though I could have just been EXTREMELY unlucky.

I loved the civil wars in original Civilization, though... they made the game a lot of fun

hi ,

there are a couple of excellent scenarios here in the database , its great to see a country split in two


, , the government should put 250 a turn aside or so to start saving , spies is the first thing we need , the we can start with missions

have a nice spying day

[Meshelic]

panag we've got LOTS of money coming in. Have you checked the save recently? 250 is small-time compared to what we're making now.

[joncnunn]

If we have more money than we know what to do with, my DM staff can put it to work rushing buildings.

[Meshelic]

We are making 600+ lytons per turn, correct? I'm pretty sure that's close at least, I haven't check this morning.

joncnunn - certainly you will have plenty of cash on hand to rush projects, in fact I encourage you to do so. Although the economics of our nation is not my forte' , I believe you should have plenty of financial support to rush-build certain projects.

On another note - I will probably be requesting future construction of military units in the coming week, although military production would not take precedence over industry and economy.

A question (and I will check the save too), but as far as you know, what percentage of cities house barracks?

SMC Meshelic

[Shiber]

Thanks to Sun Tzu's Art of War, we have barracks in all our cities in Abananaba. Additionally, we have built two barracks on Uber Isle.

[Panag]

Originally posted by Meshelic
panag we've got LOTS of money coming in. Have you checked the save recently? 250 is small-time compared to what we're making now.

Meshelic have you read the message , ....

it proposes to start putting something on the side for espionage , the rest can be used for whatever its needed , like building buildings we need , .....

simple

[Meshelic]

Originally posted by panag


Meshelic have you read the message , ....

it proposes to start putting something on the side for espionage , the rest can be used for whatever its needed , like building buildings we need , .....

simple

ughh...yet again panag I don't think you understood what I'm trying to say. That's ok though. I don't make sense all the time. In fact I laugh at myself for constantly baffling others, and constantly baffling myself!

I won't even bother trying to continue with this anymore, for fear of probably being misunderstood.

but P.S., yes I read every single post on every single thread I'm interested in. I don't skip anything, anytime, anywhere. just FYI....