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    As I stated in my campaign for SMC, I will ask of the nation to state their preferences and opinions regarding how far we take the war into the heart of Germany.

    We have several options available to us:

    1.) We take all of Germany, leaving no trace left of the German Empire other than the workers and nationals remaining.

    2.) We continue the war until a certain objective is secure; for example, capturing all German cities up until Nurembourg (which we of course could lower the population and flip chance by bombarding it down to a very low population)

    3.) We end the war now, or very soon.

    More options and decisions I encourage the Senate to discuss....

    Meshelic
    SMC Elect
    Former Supreme Military Commander of the Democratic Apolyton States, Term 8
    Former Chairman of Apolyton Labor Party

  • #2
    Our original intention was to remove Germany as a threat to our domination of the scientific arena. With that objective achieved, we can end the war.
    We may want to capture a few more German cities (e.g. as Meshelic suggested, all the cities up until Nuremburg) and/or inflict more losses upon the German armies, before we end this war. I for one am leaning in favor of option #2, but I'll wait for the senate to voice its opinions before I make any official decisions on this matter.
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    And the truth isn't what you want to see,
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    • #3
      Keep in mind that we are now at war with the Japanese as well too.
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      • #4
        We can get Breman in the peace deal...
        Remember.... pillage first then burn.

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        • #5
          We should at least take/raze and rebuild leipzig. We have plenty of units there already and we have the Japan war to help wih War Weariness for 5 more turns. We need to wait for MPP's to expire anyhow....
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          • #6
            Originally posted by CiverDan
            We should at least take/raze and rebuild leipzig. We have plenty of units there already and we have the Japan war to help wih War Weariness for 5 more turns. We need to wait for MPP's to expire anyhow....
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            • #7
              I say we take all of germany simply because at this stage ww will be too high to finish out the alliance easily. So we should try to finish them quickly.
              Aggie
              The 5th President, 2nd SMC and 8th VP in the Civ3 Demogame. Also proud member of the GOW team in the PTW game. Peace through superior firepower.

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              • #8
                We simply need to continue against Germany until the alliances end in 1370 or they are eliminated, whichever comes first.
                I used to be a builder. That was before I played Civ III

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by roadcage
                  We simply need to continue against Germany until the alliances end in 1370 or they are eliminated, whichever comes first.
                  This is the sensible option, in my opinion.

                  (I seem to agree with roadcage a lot, even when everyone else disagrees )
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                  • #10
                    Heck no! We won't go! :hippy:
                    "The Enrichment Center is required to inform you that you will be baked, and then there will be cake"
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                    • #11
                      I hereby order Thud be sent to the front of the Front....and put an officer's hat on him for those German sharpshooters....

                      Damn hippies! hehe

                      j/k
                      Former Supreme Military Commander of the Democratic Apolyton States, Term 8
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Meshelic
                        I hereby order Thud be sent to the front of the Front....and put an officer's hat on him for those German sharpshooters....

                        Damn hippies! hehe

                        j/k
                        Unfortunately, due to Thud's rather senior age as a citizen of Apolyton, he couldn't pass the physical for military service.

                        He's also a Senator, which exempts him from the draft
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                        • #13
                          Keep in mind that we are now at war with the Japanese as well too.
                          The Japaneese war, while not as phoney as the Zulu war, is phoney none the less.

                          Me thinks that Shaka is pleased with this development because he has heard rumors of our boat building campaign and wants to get himself off of the top of our enemies list.
                          I used to be a builder. That was before I played Civ III

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                          • #14
                            I dunno, is SMC a civilian or military title? If military, then as former SMC I can still be activated as part of the reserves. If civilian, then Mesh has no authority to activate or order officers around. Either way, I'm exempt.

                            You know, most of us are probably no more than piles of dust. We're probably all dead and don't realize it yet, so we continue to think that we're still Senators. No wonder nobody has called for Senate elections the past couple hundred years
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Thud
                              I dunno, is SMC a civilian or military title? If military, then as former SMC I can still be activated as part of the reserves. If civilian, then Mesh has no authority to activate or order officers around. Either way, I'm exempt.

                              You know, most of us are probably no more than piles of dust. We're probably all dead and don't realize it yet, so we continue to think that we're still Senators. No wonder nobody has called for Senate elections the past couple hundred years
                              For the same reason the RP team has debated the same issue regarding our characters, it's just more sensible to keep our personae around for centuries than to constantly be resurrecting new characters.

                              As for you and being pulled away to war, no government in its right mind would allow its Senators to be dragged off to military service on the front lines. Members and officials of the government are exempt from military service (unless they quit to go join the military).

                              That said, there are precedents throughout RL history of Senators or other legislators of various historical legislatures running off to be politician-generals in wars (to gain fame and hero status) while still retaining their seats in the legislature (though not sitting in them while on campaigns).

                              As for you, specifically, I fully expect that you resigned your commission (or are free to do so at any time) and are safety retired as well as being a member of the Senate (and thus exempt already).

                              So no worries, you can be as much of a hippy as you want to be. God knows a lot of other retired generals have done the same in RL

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