Shogun attack and loss of a lux.

[Shiber]

Originally posted by donegeal
I can't seem to be able to post a new thread (stupid Lotus Notes as a browser...), so I will hijack this one for a sec as its a FAM thread and I have a FAM issue.

I fear an attack by the Shogun (and have for the last three or four turnchats) but the possibility is now very real and dangerous. Japan has two Cav on the footsteps of an undefended size 12 city. I won't go into my yelling and screaming to defend our heartland (as I did that in the orders thread) but I want to bring up the FAM aspects of a suprize attack by the Shogun. One turn ago, all our size 12 cities were on the verge of disorder due to war weariness. We solved this by getting a new lux item and adding 4 happy faces to each city. We get one lux item from Japan (silk). If they attack, we loose that item and our size 12 and bigger cities are once again in danger of rioting (plus cities we drafted from).

I guess I just wanted to make sure that everyone was aware of this.

Thanks....you may now have your thread back.

[Shiber]

The loss of four happy faces which silk brings us will create two additional unhappy citizens in every size 12 city. I think we can take it.

[E_T]

If they attack, that loss will be offset by the Declare on us Bonus (atleast for 5 turns).

E_T

[Shiber]

Good point.

[ManicStarSeed]

I suggest that we keep the MPPs intact untill we are safe from these shogun.

I think we can take the happiness hit for the duration of a conflict with Japan.
I suggest getting some destroyers, battleships get flight for bombers to guard our shores.

Mss

[joncnunn]

Why not get Japan out of our territory via an RoP to quickly funnel their troops to either Rome or Germany who they are really after?

We could still use blockers to control where they exit.

[ManicStarSeed]

I agree regarding the speed, but with so many undefended cities, I am leery (sp?) about it. We are so railroaded, that Japan can do somethig stupid and take one of our cities precipitating a MAJOR war.
We would have to go communist and mobilize for war so that we can crank out enough troops and ships for a japanees mainland invasion in a short time. Nothing short of ahniallation will satisfy the indignation of such action.

I am not for a ROP for that reason. But I do agree it will get them out sooner.
Mss

[Meshelic]

I have toyed with the idea of signing an ROP with Japan, but in my past SP games doing so has done little to prevent an invasion, especially if the AI wishes to do so. A militaristic nation like Japan will not let what it sees as a "golden" opportunity (like this) to pass by, and I believe now that an attack is indeed imminent.

Had our cities all had at least a defender (infantry) then that might have affected how the Japanese planned what to do. Hell, they may have even decided to help us until they realized they could slip in our backdoor while all our forces are at the German Front, and thus take our production powerhouses.

It is extremely possible that Japan will take one of our cities this upcoming turn. I dare say that it is almost a sure thing. We MUST move available reinforcements back to help our poor cities....

Meshelic

[Meshelic]

edit = oops double post

[Panag]

hi ,

we need a navy , who knows how many more are on the way , .....

have a nice day

[nz_upy]

Considering you already were thinking of Japan as a threat why was nothing done b4 now about it.

Why wait until they are already landed on our shores to comment?

[Nimitz]

Japan has attacked so time for us to discuss tis as having happened.

[Meshelic]

Nimitz is correct, the vile Japanese have declared war on us this most recent turn.

Now that it's too late to discuss what we could have done before, we must discuss what we do NOW.

By the way, we lost our supply of Silks. (of course)

Meshelic

[nz_upy]

So whats the situation with Axis Vs Allies

LOL

Japan, Germany and Rome vs the Allies

Sound familiar

[Donegeal]

nz_upy , for your information, I had been screaming to get troops to the "soft underbelly" in Classical Apolyton for the last 4 to 5 turns. I had even requested drafting in as many as 4 of my 10 cities. Also, my builds and "Q's" had about 10 inf, 3 cav and an Ironclad in them before the palace move happend.