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  • #16
    Originally posted by joncnunn
    1. Did China pay us anything for peace?
    1 gold and their WM.

    2. I hope those luxaries weren't from China considering their Trade Embargo.
    Gems were from the Zulus, Ivory from Greece.

    3. I strongly sugest a counter trade embargo on our current turn against China and Rome this turn considering that it won't delay our ability to trade with either of them if we sign it then. (And it will also punish both of them.)
    It won't delay it? We had the option to embargo Rome and Germany and I deferred it because the wars should start coming to a close in 6 turns (that's when the MPPs and many of the alliances run out).

    If Rome and China already signed a counter-embargo very recently, then that changes things.

    4. How many turns are there until our MPPs expire?
    6 turns (it may now be 5).

    5. Do we have enough military units to place at least 1 in each of our cities so we can sign a RoP with Japan so that their forces clear our territory and go after Rome and/or Germany?

    (We will be at war with them if we tell them to leave or declare war.)
    The idea we had in the chat was to use a worker wall to keep the Japanese from going places we don't want and a worker wall on the coast to prevent additional landings. We have tons of extra workers and it will take a little while before we have enough hospitals to join them to our cities anyhow.

    As for telling the Japanese to leave, I didn't for exactly the reason you suggest.
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    • #17
      Yes, a very recent Rome & China Embargo was signed.

      Between Turns:

      The Japanese move to just outside Gotham (unproteced at this moment
      China & Rome sign a Trade Embargo against us
      [SIZE=1] Originally posted by Arnelos [/SIZE=1]

      It won't delay it? We had the option to embargo Rome and Germany and I deferred it because the wars should start coming to a close in 6 turns (that's when the MPPs and many of the alliances run out).

      If Rome and China already signed a counter-embargo very recently, then that changes things.
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      • #18
        What about Spiffor's plan to integrate workers into cities without hospitals and less than 12 citizens? Was it implemented?
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        • #19
          Looking at the 1320 AD map: Doesn't look like it.
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          • #20
            Originally posted by Shiber
            What about Spiffor's plan to integrate workers into cities without hospitals and less than 12 citizens? Was it implemented?
            Yes, it was, well, it was started anyways. E_T noted that in some cases the cities would be growing in 1-3 turns anyway, and so only brought them up to 11 pop. Also, we used some workers for the worker wall around the Japanese units.

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            • #21
              I see mulitple cities with pop of 9 on Aro's WM.
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              • #22
                Originally posted by Arnelos

                As for telling the Japanese to leave, I didn't for exactly the reason you suggest.
                Well we did have a vote on it and most decided to wait...
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                • #23
                  From the chat log:

                  [SMC_E_T] Orders have 2 Natives into Bacteria, but only added 1, will grow in 3 turns

                  [SMC_E_T] Orders call for Workers added to Los Alomos, but won't do that until the Marker is built next turn

                  [SMC_E_T] added 2 Workers to Jerusalem

                  [SMC_E_T] Orders call for 3 to be added to Geofront, only added 2, it will grow in 3 turns

                  [SMC_E_T] Orders call for Workers on Uber to be added to several Cities, but I'm using most of them as a worker wall aginst teh Romans & Babs

                  [SMC_E_T] did add 1 Worker each to NUC & Whelsh Coast

                  [SMC_E_T] Orders call for 4 workers to Opiadon, only added 3 as it will grow to 12 next turn

                  [SMC_E_T] did add 1 worker to Willsbury, to bring it up 2 size 14

                  [SMC_E_T] Added 1 Worker each to Chiquita & Rheims
                  Note that Spiffors orders (here) did not call to increase every city to 12 at this point.

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                  • #24
                    E_T has been right to do so. Also, my orders might have caused problems with war weariness if followed blindly, because I do not know the forumla for war weariness, and couldn't plan with it.
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by joncnunn
                      I see mulitple cities with pop of 9 on Aro's WM.
                      hi ,

                      and aint that great , more taxes , more science

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by mrmitchell
                        Hey, you!

                        Yeah, you!

                        Come join the chat! We've got 3 people here and one of them (me) is an incompetent fool!

                        Join us!

                        Sorry I couldn't make it. I had to work that evening.

                        (I want the holidays back!!!! )
                        Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war .... aw, forget that nonsense. Beer, please.

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                        • #27
                          Can we please have accurate info on the revenues from techwhoring?
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Shiber
                            Can we please have accurate info on the revenues from techwhoring?
                            Good point.

                            Without me keeping meticulous track of everything and compiling a log of all major events during the chat (which, believe me, is an enormous pain during a war chat), it seems this failed to be done.

                            Does someone have the chat log?
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                            • #29
                              Yes.
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