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  • #16
    Originally posted by Arnelos


    This is only true if Rome attacks one of them on their soil. Now if we hadn't signed that MPP with Russia...
    It will be at least 5 turns from now before there is even the possibility of approching Rome about anything, so that should not matter for this next Gameplay (if we do 5 turns).

    As for Alliances, I say no.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Arnelos


      This is only true if Rome attacks one of them on their soil. Now if we hadn't signed that MPP with Russia...
      Our Southern Flank would not be secured. Then the only option currently would be (with Russia) to have an Alliance against Rome and HAVE to be limited to a full 20 turn war OR the possibility of having Russia Ally with Rome against Us. That would be distastarous to our German plans, if that were to happen.

      Atleast with the MPP, if all of the combatants declare Peace in 5 turns or so, then we can too. If not, we have only 18 turns until the MPP's run out and we can have a separate Peace with Rome, without having to deal with being dragged back in.

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      • #18
        I was thinking the 18th was the last chat but if I am incorrect lets do it the 17th. Regardless ET you will be acting SMC during the chat, however we can play most smc by ear. I was going to propose a plan but your plan seems close to mine except for the areas I have mentioned mainly I DO want attacks on cities in germany at the opening of the war. I leave you in command with this word of wisdom do not fear some loses, particularly the first turn, sometimes waiting for cannon to come up delays operation too long, in stuggart this is necessary, but against any NON metro, loses do to calvary storming are acceptable.
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        • #19
          Originally posted by Aggie
          I was thinking the 18th was the last chat but if I am incorrect lets do it the 17th. Regardless ET you will be acting SMC during the chat, however we can play most smc by ear. I was going to propose a plan but your plan seems close to mine except for the areas I have mentioned mainly I DO want attacks on cities in germany at the opening of the war. I leave you in command with this word of wisdom do not fear some loses, particularly the first turn, sometimes waiting for cannon to come up delays operation too long, in stuggart this is necessary, but against any NON metro, loses do to calvary storming are acceptable.
          Aggie
          hi ,

          , most of the germans shall be inside the cities , it would be better to draw most of the german units in the open where we can kill them better , we should wait until art. and infantry , ....... ones the germans are away from the cities we should launch a speedy attack towards the cities with cavalry , ..... we need some more cav. units aswell , .....

          have a nice day
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          • #20
            Originally posted by Aggie
            I was thinking the 18th was the last chat but if I am incorrect lets do it the 17th. Regardless ET you will be acting SMC during the chat, however we can play most smc by ear. I was going to propose a plan but your plan seems close to mine except for the areas I have mentioned mainly I DO want attacks on cities in germany at the opening of the war. I leave you in command with this word of wisdom do not fear some loses, particularly the first turn, sometimes waiting for cannon to come up delays operation too long, in stuggart this is necessary, but against any NON metro, loses do to calvary storming are acceptable.
            Aggie
            Aggie,

            This works. Please post a chat time / chat orders thread. Thanks!
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            • #21
              Originally posted by Arnelos
              Aggie,

              This works. Please post a chat time / chat orders thread. Thanks!
              oops. I see it now
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              • #22
                Once Rome declared war on us, did any of our MPP partners declare war on Rome?

                Once the MPP is activated by a Roman attack on any unit within our borders, our MPP allies will declare and once that occurs, we cannot have peace with Rome until the MPP runs out.

                If we make peace, the pact will force us to redeclare war again, breaking our peace treaty.

                No party can back out of a MPP until the thing runs out.

                That being said, we need only wait for the MPPs to trigger, remove the threat, and, perhaps, aid our weaker allies in the south as they fight Rome.

                ... and I definately feel we should scale back Germany a turn to two to weather the initial Roman invasion, to give our allies a chance to fight this one for us, and to allow us to get Replaceable Parts and the military units that it brings.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Togas
                  ... and I definately feel we should scale back Germany a turn to two to weather the initial Roman invasion, to give our allies a chance to fight this one for us, and to allow us to get Replaceable Parts and the military units that it brings.
                  "No plan survives first contact with the enemy."

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                  • #24
                    Look closely at the second attachment. I will be amazed if that Roman rifleman in the woods will be able to restrain himself from attacking the longbowman. This will clinch the mpp's.
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Aro
                      E_T,
                      IMO, we should continue the game. The plan seems to be a good one. Will work fine, I think.
                      And great graphics, too. Are you using the Sn00py's terrain mod?
                      I'm actually using a mix of the original & SnOOpy's mods. I didn't like the looks of his Irrigation, but I love his Trees & Jungle. You can actually tell what they are.

                      E_T
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Arnelos


                        "No plan survives first contact with the enemy."

                        hi ,

                        thats why Shiber should come up with a "fase two" plan

                        and we should get some more cav units

                        have a nice day
                        - RES NON VERBA - DE OPRESSO LIBER - VERITAS ET LIBERTAS - O TOLMON NIKA - SINE PARI - VIGLIA PRETIUM LIBERTAS - SI VIS PACEM , PARA BELLUM -
                        - LEGIO PATRIA NOSTRA - one shot , one kill - freedom exists only in a book - everything you always wanted to know about special forces - everything you always wanted to know about Israel - what Dabur does in his free time , ... - in french - “Become an anti-Semitic teacher for 5 Euro only.”
                        WHY DOES ISRAEL NEED A SECURITY FENCE --- join in an exceptional demo game > join here forum is now open ! - the new civ Conquest screenshots > go see them UPDATED 07.11.2003 ISRAEL > crisis or challenge ?

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by panag
                          and we should get some more cav units
                          Do you ever look at the save before you say these things?
                          Can you tell me how many fast units (cavalry), garrisons (riflemen, soon infantry) and bombardment units (cannons, soon artillery) we currently have? Even rough figures would be accepted.
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Shiber


                            Do you ever look at the save before you say these things?
                            Can you tell me how many fast units (cavalry), garrisons (riflemen, soon infantry) and bombardment units (cannons, soon artillery) we currently have? Even rough figures would be accepted.
                            hi ,

                            shiber its not going to work , so stop it

                            and it would be nice for the future that you would stop doing what you are doing now , ......


                            have a nice day
                            - RES NON VERBA - DE OPRESSO LIBER - VERITAS ET LIBERTAS - O TOLMON NIKA - SINE PARI - VIGLIA PRETIUM LIBERTAS - SI VIS PACEM , PARA BELLUM -
                            - LEGIO PATRIA NOSTRA - one shot , one kill - freedom exists only in a book - everything you always wanted to know about special forces - everything you always wanted to know about Israel - what Dabur does in his free time , ... - in french - “Become an anti-Semitic teacher for 5 Euro only.”
                            WHY DOES ISRAEL NEED A SECURITY FENCE --- join in an exceptional demo game > join here forum is now open ! - the new civ Conquest screenshots > go see them UPDATED 07.11.2003 ISRAEL > crisis or challenge ?

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                            • #29
                              wha????

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