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**Arnelos** · December 13, 2002, 15:28

What is the position of each candidate on whether the war with Germany is the last war which the nation needs?

Do you desire to:

a) Fight the war with Germany. Then declare war on England or Greece next, with the intent of going after every power on Abananaba in succession.
b) Declare war on England or Greece next, but end the wars after that.
c) Fight the war with Germany. Do not intend to fight wars with England, Greece, or anyone else after Germany. Believe we should fight additional wars when specifically provoked, but should avoid additional wars of conquest.
d) Fight war with Germany. Declare a morotorium on all further conflict. Only fight wars if declared upon.
e) End the war with Germany at the earliest possible date, as the fighting of the war itself should sufficiently damage them. Make a morotorium on all further conflict. Only fight wars if declared upon.

I'm not trying to load the answers themselves or overly hint at my own position. But my position isn't terribly important, since it is the positions of hte voters in relation to your own which will matter on this...

I would hope that none of the candidates attempt to dodge this question. While you can say that declaring war is ultimately a Senate decision, many senate actions or executive actions are subject to executive vetoes... and your vote as SMC may count. The voters thus need to know where you stand

You need not feel constrained by the choices I've thought of above... if you want to elaborate, no-one will mind

**Meshelic** · December 13, 2002, 19:31

I would have to answer "C". After Germany collapses, we will quickly be number 1 in technology, military, economy....etc etc, there will be no need to fight additional wars unless we are specifically threatened or provoked.

However, depending on how the alliances and pacts between nations go down, there is the possibility that Germany may recruit some allies to fight against us. Surely, whatever nation rises up against us on the side of Germany will have to face some sort of punishment, either by our military snagging one of their cities, or by paying us extra lytons for joining the wrong side.

But, speaking from my Labor Party platform, we don't encourage unnecessary war, and beyond this war with Germany, besides the Zulu (who need to be punished for invading Uber Isle sometime), I don't feel the need to rush our army around the continent, fighting wars that do not help us.

A far cry from my Hawk Party days, eh?

**E_T** · December 13, 2002, 22:15

I say F, none of those options.

My plans are to go for Germany. If the Senate want, to go for broke, although I personally think that we should only take the 6 cities and maybe damage the rest.

Afterwards, and maybe while the war with Germany progresses, we should be working on Preping England for the next Blow. THe Timeing will depend on the losses in Germany and how soon the DM can rebuild the Forces.

After we get what we want from England, we can start on The Zulu. We can have a grand fleet of 6 to 8 Gallions (it might be Transports) with some Ironclads and maybe Destroyers. We will show Shaka how to properly run an Invasion.

Then, and finally, there will be the Greeks to deal with. We want their Ivory. By the time that we will get to them, We should have the new Palace built (or almost) and those areas will be very profitable.

Most of these plans will be happening after this upcomeing term has ended.

E_T

**Panag** · December 14, 2002, 15:40

hi ,

we need a navy , .............

who is going to give it , ........

and before we go to war we need more units in our army , ........

have a nice day

**Arnelos** · December 14, 2002, 18:49

panag,

the construction of a navy (or the lack thereof) would be at the discretion of the Domestic Minister (and the President and Senate for the finances if he wants to rush its construction).

**Panag** · December 14, 2002, 19:03

Originally posted by Arnelos
panag,

the construction of a navy (or the lack thereof) would be at the discretion of the Domestic Minister (and the President and Senate for the finances if he wants to rush its construction).

hi ,

warships should be the property of the department of imperial war , ......

not to mention of the benefits we can have with a fleet , it does not even have to be big for now , .....

have a nice day

**Meshelic** · December 14, 2002, 19:55

panag,

While the SMC is the one who would command the fleet (or appoint a deputy Navy Commander), it is the Domestic Minister that decides to build it at all in the cities.

Besides, until we research Mass Production and Combustion, we would be wasting resources, since we could not upgrade the more ancient units to the modern ones.

**Panag** · December 14, 2002, 20:00

Originally posted by Meshelic
panag,

While the SMC is the one who would command the fleet (or appoint a deputy Navy Commander), it is the Domestic Minister that decides to build it at all in the cities.

Besides, until we research Mass Production and Combustion, we would be wasting resources, since we could not upgrade the more ancient units to the modern ones.

hi ,

a couple naval units could do wonders , ......
if we have to wait for domestic internal corruption to build them , ............

a plan should be made for the future , this is bound to give troubles , ........

all we should build in the mean time is a couple ships , ..... until we can build the real stuff , when we have that we can disband the old obsolete units , .....

have a nice day

**Meshelic** · December 14, 2002, 20:08

panag - What kind of wonders would you say the naval units would do? For what I know, ship bombardment is not as effective as gound artillery, and other than transports moving our cavalry around, I don't see what use it will be other than a drain on our economy and production.

We are fighting now in a two-front war, possibly three in the next couple of turns, depending on what happens. We're going to need all the Home Defense and Front Line Armies as we can get.

**Panag** · December 14, 2002, 20:17

Originally posted by Meshelic
panag - What kind of wonders would you say the naval units would do? For what I know, ship bombardment is not as effective as gound artillery, and other than transports moving our cavalry around, I don't see what use it will be other than a drain on our economy and production.

We are fighting now in a two-front war, possibly three in the next couple of turns, depending on what happens. We're going to need all the Home Defense and Front Line Armies as we can get.

hi ,

the AI likes to use ones in a while small invasions behind the lines , we could do the same , .....

by the way , there are some voters who would like to see a navy , so give it to them , ......

have a nice day

**Meshelic** · December 14, 2002, 20:28

Originally posted by panag

hi ,

the AI likes to use ones in a while small invasions behind the lines , we could do the same , .....

by the way , there are some voters who would like to see a navy , so give it to them , ......

have a nice day

I have been one of the foremost supporters of a large navy in the past! and to this day I still approve of a grand Navy. Shiber and I WERE the ones who explored the lost civz and discovered them.

However, we were in different times then, and we are in different times now. A large navy is not necessary, until we make some technological achievements.

The Senate has not yet approved to allow the war to continue into Roman territory, at this point only a defensive war has been suggested.

**Panag** · December 14, 2002, 20:35

Originally posted by Meshelic

I have been one of the foremost supporters of a large navy in the past! and to this day I still approve of a grand Navy. Shiber and I WERE the ones who explored the lost civz and discovered them.

However, we were in different times then, and we are in different times now. A large navy is not necessary, until we make some technological achievements.

The Senate has not yet approved to allow the war to continue into Roman territory, at this point only a defensive war has been suggested.

hi ,

we dont need a large navy for now , we do need some ships to transport some units for an amph. assault , and some ships to destroy AI ships that come to close , ......
it would not hurt us to build them , .....

a couple units true a "backdoor" could do wonders , ....

have a nice night

**Meshelic** · December 14, 2002, 20:53

I have withdrawn in my race for SMC, please check the Election thread for more details.

Thank you.

Meshelic

**Panag** · December 15, 2002, 13:39

Originally posted by Meshelic
I have withdrawn in my race for SMC, please check the Election thread for more details.

Thank you.

Meshelic

hi ,

now thats a shame , ......

you where so close , ...... snif , snif , .....

have a sad day

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