Construction Shack - 870AD (and beyond) Corruption & Waste Statistics

[roadcage]

I am convinced that option 3 will prevail in the vote.

This decision can only be postponed for a few turns. Once the shields in Timeline exceed the largest cost available project, waste will result. I do not have the game up at my current location, so I cannot give a turn count decision window. However, I am pretty sure that we can go this turnchat and still make a Bank.

[E_T]

Originally posted by roadcage


I agree that the Timeline palace should be cancelled and replaced with an city developing project. A bank is ok but I suggest that E_T make the final call on exactly which infrastructure project is accelerated.

I will delay the current Palace Production, Pending a new Poll (I have to check to see what the time frame has been from the last one).

What was ignored here was that Timeline would be better if Flip Em Off were successful and we moved furthur north into Greek, Aztec, and German lands.

If you'll notice, I did include those Cities (and more) in my Charts.

Until we commit to an expansion direction, any Palace choice is tough to justify.

And one more fly in the ointment, I do not see city site 1b (from the GH plan for France) on the lists. While it is impossible to know until Steam Engine where the coal is, I have never seen a city location with better Iron Works possibilities than site 1b. This site already has iron, and EVERY remaining tile within it's eventual working radius is either jungle, hill, or mountain all of which are possible coal sites.

Site 1B was built last turnchat and was named by default as Heliopolis. So it's included in the charts as one of the cities. I didn't list it as a canidate for the New Palace, as it's no where in any position to begin production of something like the New Palace. Not without a Lot of Infrasturcture, Prebuild Inprovements & population to build it. It might be considered at some future date, but not until after the next turnchat.

I assert that if we are lucky enough to have an iron works there the palace should be located to fully exploit this development.

We hope that that happens, but we'll see.

E_T

[joncnunn]

Definately voting for #3.

With regards to an Iron Works appearing at 1B.

I'm assuming that 1B will be further down from current place than Site 2. This seems to place it on almost half the shields produced wasted (with Court House + We Love the King Day.) If we have another war, and get a GL at the right time (say end of the next war like it was in this case), it may be worth it to use it for the Palace in 1B if we find that it is indeed an Iron Works City.

[roadcage]

Thanks E_T. Yes I see Heliopolis on the city list and more importantly I see it where I expected to see it in the current save. Whether this site gets an Iron Works or not, it will probably be our top Shield city once fully developed.

roleplay
Every few minutes, I pan over to Heliopolis, and imagine it fully developed. Visions of shields dance thru my head marching forward and slowly turning into Armies of Modern Armor! Taking a southeasterly path to Avignon Field. Stoping there, and pausing at the foot of the statue of Lord Khufu, erected at the former site of the foul French city of Avignon, so all would remember the great work begun there so many turns ago.
/roleplay

While I realize that I am not a member of the government and not entitled to such provelidge, I hereby suggest that the Heliopolis be re-named

The Arsenal (of democracy)

And I was not necessarily suggesting that the Capital be placed there, just close enough to get a real shield pop! Marcross City and Hole in the Wall both look suitable for this purpose. But gosh, with an Iron Works/Factory etc The Arsenal sure could do a Palace fast

[zeit]

E_T- not that i mind stopping the palace building in Timeline, I actually agree that building the palace there could be wrong, as your estimates show.
BUT, i think some announcement in your part is necessary, in the spirit of this game- as the poll ruled that Timeline is the site. Just post that you plan to postpone the constrction, in sight of this new analysis, etc.

[E_T]

Originally posted by zeit
E_T- not that i mind stopping the palace building in Timeline, I actually agree that building the palace there could be wrong, as your estimates show.
BUT, i think some announcement in your part is necessary, in the spirit of this game- as the poll ruled that Timeline is the site. Just post that you plan to postpone the constrction, in sight of this new analysis, etc.

I Already did, in the City status thread. It has been pushed back but not entirely taken out of the Q.

E_T

[joncnunn]

Heliopolis will only become the most productive city if the Palace is near it.

Macross City is close enough with only 10% waste with Court House + WLTK Day, with the waste dropping more with Police Station. (Athough we might want to investigate the 3 cities currently Greek that are closer to Marcoss City if we take them over.)

But if Heliopolis turns out to be an Iron Works city, then it will become the opimum location of the palace so that no shields in that highly productive city are wasted.