What should be done with Khufu?

[joncnunn]

Originally posted by roadcage


How pathetic. What does the Palace move accomplish?

Answer very little. The principal effects of a Palace build are to change which cities are productive, and to change the locations where culture flips are probable. It does little in the way of actually increasing overall productivity.

Why waste a rare GL for so little?

Palace costs more shields to relocate with as many cities as we have than any Industrial Age wonder.

And our overall production increases at the new location.

Well, atleast we agree on ToE. Women's Suffrage value is inversely porportional to the number of luxuries you control outright. We now control 4 and after the Greek campaign will control 5. This plus Police stations are enough for the oscilating war style under Democracy.

While we should be able to Build Hoovers, why wait?
Try to imagine what the land of the banana will look like about the time Hoover's Dam appears in our build lists. We will probably have many Factories, (say a dozen for purposes of discussion) that would average 20 native shields, 10 Factory assisted shields, and potentially another 10 Hydroplant assisted shields. Furthur imagine that our top shield city has 30 native shields.

We don't need to build any Hydroplants, just build the Hoover Dam in the most productive city with access to river which should have a Factory & Hospital already. Our FP city might be an excelent city to build it in if there's a river there.

How do you evaluate a GL for Hoovers? Hint: It's much larger than the stated Shield value. You have to include the additional shields per turn (120/turn in the assumptions above) foregone while being built.

Hoover's Dam is one of the few Wonders that is self funding in terms of shields. If Hoover's were on my buildlist now, I would not be pushing for an Army!

Hoover Dam is also so far in the future that I highly dought we won't be in at least one more war by then, if we are about to get into a war and still have a GL, we'd have to use it right away before the first Elite unit attacked.

[BigFurryMonster]

Armies are just more exciting.

[GodKing]

where is the option of disbanding him????


jeez people, take a joke will ya!

[Arnelos]

UNDER ABSOLUTELY NO CIRCUMSTANCES should he be used to rush either a palace or the forbidden palace... what a waste! No-one else can prevent us from building either of them and both will be built on their own within a semi-reasonable amount of time w/o assistance...

To forgo rushing a wonder or having our first army just to cut some turns off palace construction would be the height of stupidity...

As for whether he should be used for an army or saved for Isaac Newton's, either is good for us.

[joncnunn]

After seeing the stats on corruption waste, I don't like the current location the Palace is being built in.

I'm now supporting Army as marginally more useful than Women's Sufferage.

(To poll monitors, this is "Off Palace On Army.")

Also looking at the stats, if city 1B turns out to have an Iron Works, I think it would be worth it to use a future GL to relocate a Palace there given how far down that city is on our current list of cities resulting in almost 50% waste even with Court House + We Love the King Day combined with the huge number of shields.