Discussion on a future Senate

[GhengisFarbâ„¢]

I don't know if someone else proposed it or not but it seems to make sense for me.

At the end of each election we have a Senator Sign up Thread. Any citizen not holding an elective office simply posts that they wish to be recognized as a Senator.

Make the cutoff 5 days or something and that determines your Senate for that term. New members may have to wait a month to become Senators with the 5 day window but it would make sense for them to observe for a few weeks before initiating Senate Bills anyway.

[Meshelic]

I like your idea there Ghengis.

Notyoueither - if a census is done every term by default, then where are those numbers for this term?

[Arnelos]

Ghengis... the problem with your idea is that there's no way to prevent any member of Apolyton boards from voting in a poll (that I know of, anyhow). Personally, I also side with the Con Con on the idea that 1 citizen = 1 senator. The designation of "senator" is merely honorary... I'm fine with that.

[DAVOUT]

OK, Senator is an honorary title, but members of commissions can be volonteers, and can accept rules of procedures specific to their commissions.

[civman2000]

I don't know if someone else proposed it or not but it seems to make sense for me.

At the end of each election we have a Senator Sign up Thread. Any citizen not holding an elective office simply posts that they wish to be recognized as a Senator.

Make the cutoff 5 days or something and that determines your Senate for that term. New members may have to wait a month to become Senators with the 5 day window but it would make sense for them to observe for a few weeks before initiating Senate Bills anyway.

That's absurd. Say someone joins just a few days too late, so then they have to spend an entire month without being allowed to do anything but watch and post comments. Or say a very active person is on vacation or something and thus have to sit out a month?

As many people (including me) said when the idea of a "senate" was brought up a few months ago, if "senator" comes to mean more than simply "citizen" or "member" and people have to do something other than have joined to gain special priviledges associated with senatorship, that would go against our basic democratic principles .

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by Meshelic
Notyoueither - if a census is done every term by default, then where are those numbers for this term?

Census for the purposes of quorum is the number of votes cast in the most recent presidential election. That is the default provided for by the Constitution.

Up till now that has been meaningless, because we have never had provisions for quorum for polls before.

[Meshelic]

Originally posted by notyoueither


Census for the purposes of quorum is the number of votes cast in the most recent presidential election. That is the default provided for by the Constitution.

Up till now that has been meaningless, because we have never had provisions for quorum for polls before.

Well I could have gathered that information myself, and I did, and still thought that it was a rough number and still chose to voice my opinion about this. In the polls I think the most people I saw vote was 72. Now, on average there were about 60-70 people voting I believe... BUT there is still a list of 400 peoplewhen you join this game. When I joined I assumed that 400 people were regularly or semi-regularly following what's going on, posting, and basically participating. To my surprise that number was less than a quarter of what I originally thought.

So I just don't see what the difficulty is here in asking 60 or 70 people to simply send a message with just their name or an "i am here" note, especially in comparison to sorting out that huge list in the membership thread....

[Duddha]

One thing I am a little worried about happening is the following; a military comminsion decides we need to pursue a different strategy than that of the SMC. They then push funding for their idea over that which the SMC. We need rules that stress that such comminsions will be "advisory only", and will not try to seize more power and undermine exisiting leadership. This applies not only for the military, but for all ministries.
Aggie

I think the Con Con is already pretty clear on this matter.