Do we really want Democracy?

[realpolitic]

Democracy will come back to bite us. It's just going to cause more War Weariness, and speed our change to Communism. You might as well face it, you're addicted to war (and that becomes the only game in town when you get tanks).

[Duddha]

...and speed our change to Communism.

exactly

If we are going to have any war weariness we might as well get all the benefits.

[Panzer32]

This is the advantage of being a religious civ. We can change governments often , and only get 1 turn of anarchy. Change to democracy, and when war weariness gets to us, switch to something else!!!

(Commies )

[History Guy]

I'm no "Capitalist Pig", but I don't like the idea of seeing Apolytonia turn Commie!

[Meshelic]

I agree. In my own games Democracy is always troublesome and leftfor some major wars that were begun and then cut short.

Once we reach modern times the other civs (Greeks and Germans in my opinion) will want to flex their muscles. If we switch to Democracy we'll have to do some serious military build-up, otherwise it could get ugly...

RP
*I foresee a glorious, bloody revolution on the horizon! And through that revolution a mighty socialist nation! But alas I cannot foretell who that nation will be! Could it be us? Time may tell.*
END RP

[Meshelic]

Democracy often calls for quick, limited wars as well. I agree with that, but for game purposes it's so much more fun to have an arch-nemisis with a titanic struggle between the two....I'm not saying 'let's go make enemies' but....

[Panzer32]

Communism (in civ terms) is like a monarchy on steroids

It is much better for a large empire because distance from the palace has no effect on corruption.

The only downside (or maybe upside) is that rush building is done through human labour, which results in smaller cities.

[Panzer32]

*I foresee a glorious, bloody revolution on the horizon! And through that revolution a mighty socialist nation! But alas I cannot foretell who that nation will be! Could it be us? Time may tell.*

As the red hoarde sweeps down on us, the older citizens remember a time of the great monarchs as they recolect the olden days with a passion that would have swept the nation... [Narrator's voice faces off into the distance...]

Oh yeah, we haven't discovered communism yet... SHHHH... no one's supposed to know about that...

[Meshelic]

[jdjdjd]

Originally posted by Meshelic
I agree. In my own games Democracy is always troublesome and leftfor some major wars that were begun and then cut short.

Once we reach modern times the other civs (Greeks and Germans in my opinion) will want to flex their muscles. If we switch to Democracy we'll have to do some serious military build-up, otherwise it could get ugly...

The thing is, the Greeks and Germans won't be too quick to flex their muscles if we make sure we keep our military up tp date and sizeable. We can't do that until we start closing the tech gap and improving our infrastructure. We need to do that now. Democracy comes with many benefits if you can keep your nation at peace. Also. of we decide to go for the spaceship, then we'll need the boost Demo gives.

[Meshelic]

You're right, and I pointed out the fact that we'll still need to maintain a large military in my last post. In that light I think we need to always be producing at least 4-5 military units in each city, while working on industry and commerce in the other cities,....then rotating the build queus.

At no point should we build improvements at the expense of our military production is all I'm saying.

[kring]

If you wait until the end of the turn to switch, then you don't have to worry about Anarchy in a religious civ. I learned that trick a while back. I don't automatically switch at the beginning of the turn and lose that whole turn's production anymore.

We would benefit from the increased Worker rate as well, esp. with all this jungle to deal with.

[Torkkeli]

Well I usually go straight to Dem. skipping Rep.. But as we already have Rep. Dem. is not needed.

[Meshelic]

We JUST moved to Republic! Now all this talk of democracy! Sounds like I hear a "Apolyton Democratic Front' beginning...

[Donegeal]

Originally posted by kring
We would benefit from the increased Worker rate as well, esp. with all this jungle to deal with.

This is the main reason for going to Democracy. What is the wkr bonus again? 50%-200% I believe (don't know for sure, I don't have the game available).