City Council: Markets, Libraries and Cathedrals

[Torkkeli]

Must agree with Sir Ralph.

Although maybe Cathedrals in border cities first.

[Mr. Orange]

Like Sir Ralph said, Courthouses. Even if our the palaces have not been placed yet. With our empire sprawling arcoss 1/4 of the known world, corruption will be the endemic scourge of our society. Tackle corruption first, then improvements. Markets in core cities, libraries in inner ring, cathedrals in outer ring.

[Harovan]

Don't forget, that more citizens also build improvements quicker. Therefor it might me a good idea, first to boost our core to size 12 with temples, marketplaces and cathedrals, and then build libraries, universities and banks much quicker.

[GodKing]

Courthouses & acuaducts. These must be considered in this discussion. At work, not much time to elaborate, but trying to seperate only these three without any specifics will not work.

[Shiber]

New York has a temple and access to five luxuries. There are four citizens, out of which three are happy and the remaining citizen is content.
Maybe I'm just stupid but I simply don't get it.

[Harovan]

New York has a temple and access to five luxuries. There are four citizens, out of which three are happy and the remaining citizen is content.
Maybe I'm just stupid but I simply don't get it.

NY has no marketplace, right?

Basic NY: 1 content, 3 unhappy
Temple: 2 content, 2 unhappy
1st luxury: 1 happy, 1 content, 2 unhappy
2nd luxury: 2 happy, 2 unhappy
3rd luxury: 2 happy, 1 content, 1 unhappy (no more content citizens to make happy)
4th luxury: 3 happy, 1 unhappy
5th luxury: 3 happy, 1 content

It's all like it should be .

Btw: GodKing is right about Aqueducts. Right after Cathedrals, or cities won't grow.

[Donegeal]

Actually I think most (or atleast alot) of our cities (not on Uber Island) have a river bordering them and don't require an aqueduct.

[Torkkeli]

Originally posted by donegeal
Actually I think most (or atleast alot) of our cities (not on Uber Island) have a river bordering them and don't require an aqueduct.

Great!

However there is a small but in here.
As our cities grow are we able to keep the citizen happy?
With cathedrals I think we are able to keep them happy but who knows...

[Harovan]

Torkkeli: Because we have the Sistine chapel, our cathedrals grant city growth until size 12, given we have 4 luxuries (3 with marketplace). We have those luxuries, and don't even need to trade for them. We also don't need to build Colosseums.

[Torkkeli]

Originally posted by Sir Ralph
Torkkeli: Because we have the Sistine chapel, our cathedrals grant city growth until size 12, given we have 4 luxuries (3 with marketplace). We have those luxuries, and don't even need to trade for them. We also don't need to build Colosseums.

Ok this is good.

Now why not Colosseums? They give a lot of culture IIRC.

[Hot Mustard]

I'll take a shot at it:

1) Marketplace - With our science rate still at 0%, we need all the lytons we can get.

2) Cathedral - With the Sistine, they are the sweetest building in the game. Moves up to 1st for border or captured cities.

3) Gets tricky now:

a) If city will require an aquaduct, and will be finished the growth to 7 by the time the aquaduct is finished - build it.

b) If city is suffering from corruption (50%+), build courthouse.

c) If neither a) or b) apply, build library.

4) Even trickier. From this point on, keep checking the 3a) and 3b) conditions until those buildings are built.

a) same as 3a)

b) same as 3b)

c) If neither a) or b) apply, build colosseum.

Repeat 4) until applicable buildings are built.

At any time, a Harbour may interrupt this order (from 3c onward), as deemed necessary for either trade or growth concerns.

[Donegeal]

Good work. I might not agree with it totally, but having a plan like this, where certian conditions are to be met would be an excelent way to set up CP orders.

[Shiber]

Sir Ralph, I figured happy faces turn unhappy citizens into content and not just content citizens into happy citizens but I wanted to make sure. Thanks!

[Torkkeli]

To correct myself:

Colosseums give only 2 culture. (I wonder why I had the impression they give 4 culture... )
So dejons plan looks very good.

[Harovan]

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