Amendment Discussion: Cash Rushing and Upgrading (revisited)

[Mr. Orange]

My suggestion is the MoE has to budget buy percentage rather then numbers. That way, people can plan for the future and apporpriate accordingly. So if a Minister wants to rush a building or unit, they could have cash in reserve (EX: 30 Lytons from last turn) plus current (EX: 15% of tax revenue) funds. It eliminates the problem of having to always request more funds from the MoE during a peace situation.

Edits to the Admendment are in your format:

- To distribute funds to Minister of Military for the Upgrading or Rushing of Units. The Minister of Economy has no direct control over which units will be upgraded, however.
- To distribute funds to the City Planner for the rushing of buildings (or units). The Minister of Economy has no direct control over which (removed buildings here) get rushed, but can petition the City Planner as to his own opinions.

If the SMC wants to rush a unit, let the MoD use their budget allocated by the MoE. The CP still has the choice to produce units. What happens when a unit is in production should be under the jurisdiction of the MoD. If there is a war situation, the MoE could easily inject more money into the MoD.

[Panag]

hi ,

we should try to minimize unit rushing , and use the money to buy buildings , and right now we should start to save some for the future , .....

have a nice day

[UnOrthOdOx]

Panag, it is nice to see you on again.

This is not on what we SHOULD be doing, but rather who is in charge of DECIDING that job.

[UnOrthOdOx]

OK, one final? time. Is this one ready now?

The positions of Minister of Trade and Minister of Finance are hereby dissolved by this amendment. In their place is the creation of a new office, the Ministry of the Economy.

The functions of the Ministry of Economy will precisely be :
- To adjust the sliders in agreement with the People or the President. These two get actually to decide who should get what budget. The minister of economy should only give documented advice.
- To check if cities produce a good amount of money, and petition the city planner to build marketplaces and banks where it has to be. The minister of economy has no direct power on cities however.
- To check if resources and luxuries are well dispatched in the empire, and to petition the minister of public works if different. The minister of economy has no direct power on workers.
- To haggle gold amounts in a trade decided by the Foreign Affairs Minister. The Minister of Economy must agree to all trades involving cash, luxuries, or resources that are proposed by the Foreing Affairs Minister.
- To distribute funds to Minister of Military for the Upgrading or Rushing of Units. The Minister of Economy has no direct control over which units will be upgraded or rushed, however.
- To distribute funds to the City Planner for the rushing of buildings. The Minister of Economy has no direct control over which get rushed, but can petition the City Planner as to his own opinions.
- To distribute funds to the Foreign Affairs Minister for the building of Embassies. The Minster of Economy has no direct control over which embassy is built first.

[Mr. Orange]

It looks to be a fair and balanced compromise. MoE holds the money, the others makes requests. The others can build X, the MoE cannot.

But... I f I had to quibble...

- To check if cities produce a -- (good amount of money) to surplus --, and petition the city planner to build marketplaces and banks where it has to be. The minister of economy has no direct power on cities however.

Take it if you want. I won't start a poll on it.

[joncnunn]

Actually, I like the "good ammout of money" wording better.

With 100% of our money going to taxes, cities that are net drainers probably can't be imporved much until they grow.

And Court Houses and Police Stations should be added to the list. The current Economic Minister has been successful finding cities where Court Houses are highly useful to reduce corruption, increasing our cash coffers.

[DAVOUT]

Good. This will make easy for the MoE to maintain the record of what really costs the military, and how it evolves over time, turns and terms.

[Mr. Orange]

joncnunn --

You're right. But how do we quantify " a good amount" and what is "a good amount" depending on government, city imporves, etc...

A surplus in a Civ City would be (commerce+science)-(city improvement+corruption). If its 1 Lyton, it is a surplus. But we all know everyone wants more, so the MoE could give word to the CP in increase the surplus by X%. However, it is a firm indicator to know if a city in the black.

But, like I said... I'm not going to run a poll...

DAVOUT --

As to cost of the Military. You can find out right now! Use my MilCalc at: http://www.luckyorange.com

It what I made for us when joining Apolyton. It can give all sorts of figures regarding the military in any Civ game.

Especially with all these whispers about "Emperor Aggie I"...

[DAVOUT]

How to quantify a good amount ?

As you know, the MoE has established a standard measure : the amount of gold/person/turn. I suppose that he keeps an eye on the cities with an amount of gold/person/turn lower that the average.

Of course, the amendment cannot use a more precise definition because of all changes which can be appropriate in that matter (technically or conceptually).

[DAVOUT]

Orange,

I will look with interest on your baby; what I have in mind is the appraisal of each term; this appraisal should have a financial side showing how the money has been invested in units, tech purchase, luxury purchase, buildings (splitted in military, culture, happiness), etc. So, behind political declarations and promises, the people could see how those promises translate financially.

[Mr. Orange]

this appraisal should have a financial side showing how the money has been invested in units, tech purchase, luxury purchase, buildings (splitted in military, culture, happiness), etc. So, behind political declarations and promises, the people could see how those promises translate financially.

Now there is a calculator just waiting to be made! It would also be an excellent campagin question.

[UnOrthOdOx]

Anyone else have anything to say on this? Is it ready?