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    I have created this thread and reposted this post from the Nominations thread at Unorthodox's request. The following post has been copied and pasted here:

    I've been waiting to see if Nimitz changed his mind, but I guess he hasn't. And while I still don't understand why he wants to run against me, I welcome the challange.

    Nimitz -- Please answer these questions for me. Why are you running for FAM? What is your platform? Are you unhappy with how I've run things or do you just want to be in control of foriegn affairs? And lastly, is this a DIA thing?

    If you expect to be elected because of party affailiation (because I don't have a party behind me) you'll be dissapointed. I think that you'll find that Apolytonia isn't a two party nation. Most of the people could care less about which party a candidate comes from. They want the person who will do the best job.

    --Togas
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  • #2
    I'm not running against you for party reasons or because I think your doing a bad job it because this is what I like to do (Foreign Ministery) and so there is a real race for this position.
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    • #3
      Nimitz -- Do you have any campaign platform or policies you'd like to discuss? Why should the people elect you?

      As for me, I've been in office for two months now. I'm pretty sure the people are familiar with the Foreign Ministry team, threads, and activities. It's a difficult job but the Ministry (myself and my team) have really carried through for the country. I can't take all the credit, because I have some excellent people working with me, but I would like to continue our tradition and policies into a third term and finish up what I started just two months ago.

      With the CoL the way it is, this would be my final term and I'd like to make the best of it. I believe my leadership and judgement have helped to make our office a model bureaucracy, and I'd like one last month to finish things off on a positive note as our nation heads into a peaceful and prosperous period.

      --Togas
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      • #4
        I would like to see less of the warmongering strategy... lets try to work together with our neighbours, while we build up our homeland. What is both of your replies to this?
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Panzer32
          I would like to see less of the warmongering strategy... lets try to work together with our neighbours, while we build up our homeland. What is both of your replies to this?
          Ah HA! Finally. A question.

          This office controls the ability to make peace and make alliances. It has signifigant power to promote or deter war and conquest.

          I have never chosen to use that power to direct, delay, hinder, or promote a "warmongering strategy." This office has been used to faithfully aid and assist in whatever strategy the nation has followed.

          Historically, the nation as a whole has been on a conquest path and it has lead us to become the greatest Civilization on the continent, and this office has assisted with that. Should we switch to a more industrious strategy, this office will follow suit without hesitation.

          As for "working together with our neighbors," I would prefer to remain at peace (as we have negotiated all of our peace treaties, except America, to last another 20 years), as that is what we have planned in our long term mission. However, I cannot say that I want to work "together" with our neighbors, other than economically.

          I don't like alliances that much. I don't do MPPs. I disdain RoP agreements. And I just don't trust the AI, period. We once had a program where we gave tech to "charity" nations, but that program ceased when a charity suddenly had tech we didn't have ... and wouldn't give us a good price for it.

          Our neighbors are our competition. I'm happy with peaceful competition, but I have no qualms with using every dirty trick I know to foil any nation that dares to spill Apolytonia blood, or steal our resources.

          --Togas
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          • #6
            Togas has done a great job thus far as FAM, and I have nothing against seeing him in as another term

            However, I do take notice at the first post of this thread.

            Why must he be asked if he is running against you because he is either 1: in a party or 2: unhappy with your efforts?

            Nimitz -- Please answer these questions for me. Why are you running for FAM? What is your platform? Are you unhappy with how I've run things or do you just want to be in control of foriegn affairs? And lastly, is this a DIA thing?

            If you expect to be elected because of party affailiation (because I don't have a party behind me) you'll be dissapointed. I think that you'll find that Apolytonia isn't a two party nation. Most of the people could care less about which party a candidate comes from. They want the person who will do the best job.
            I don't think Nimitz, or any candidate for ANY position, should have to pass a test before they become a "valid" candidate. If someone wants to run for a job, it is their right, no matter the reason. And scrutiny seems... confuzing to me.

            no offense to anyone intended of course. I just wonder why you have to ask him why hes running.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Ninot
              I don't think Nimitz, or any candidate for ANY position, should have to pass a test before they become a "valid" candidate. If someone wants to run for a job, it is their right, no matter the reason. And scrutiny seems... confuzing to me.

              no offense to anyone intended of course. I just wonder why you have to ask him why hes running.
              I was trying to get a debate or conversation started up with Nimitz. I also didn't understand his motives at the time for running, so I decided to ask him to see what the campaign was going to be about so that I knew what I was facing.

              You know, challange the opposition a bit at the beginning of the campaign? That kinda fun stuff.

              Anyhow, I think it was for the best because I found out that Nimitz isn't one of those disgruntal types who is running out of a party bias or a platfom bias or whatnot. He's a good guy who really enjoys the Foreign Ministry. So much so that he asked me for a job in it last term. If he loses the race I'll keep him as one of my deputies.

              I'm pleased at his answer because it tells me that we're going to have a positive campaign -- we're two guys who really enjoy this job -- and probably maintain a good working relationship regardless of how this thing turns out.

              --Togas
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              • #8
                So, uh, anyone else want to ask us questions?

                Nimitz? Anything you want to discuss or debate?

                It's a slow week in the office for me. I've got plenty of time to chat.

                --Togas
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                • #9
                  Ok, you ask for questions. What direction do you think Apolytonia should head in, should we stop wars for the time being and start building or keep on fighting?

                  I think after America we should wait for a good while before another war unless its defencive.
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                  • #10
                    Frankly, I agree with you, Nimitz, but I don't think it's possible. We're going to have to get ourselves into another war in the near future in order to trigger the much delayed Golden Age.

                    --Togas
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                    • #11
                      You see as I said last time I agree with most your policys.
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                      • #12
                        This campain is is going to be about who you think will do the job better and not who s policys you like better.
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                        • #13
                          This campain is is going to be about who you think will do the job better and not who s policys you like better.
                          If that is true, does Togas have an advantage?

                          How will you compete with his experience?


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                          • #14
                            I'll go ahead and ask one... I guess this is probably directed towards Nimitz a bit since I know some of Togas' plans, but I'd like to hear what both canidates think...

                            As some of you may or may not know, interest in being Foreign Ministry deputies was (as of last term, anyway) very high. Clearly, we want to reduce overlap between the deputies, keep active people on the 'payroll' , and have some sort of logical structure that allows as many interested people as possible to participate.

                            What do both of you think of a potential three-pronged type structure? Minister (potentially Vice Minsiter as well if you like that system), Intelligence (Responsible for monitoring the other nations and their actions), and Advisory (Responsible for advising on general foreign policy and coming up with specific deals).

                            Just thought I might get a bit of discussion flowing on that topic, since it's not an easy one, and I'd like to hear what both Canidates think...

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                            • #15
                              By learning from him and doing my best to better then he does and term limits. Thats why we have term limits so a select few don't rule the government forever it allows new talent to be elected.
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