Game Report 440-490 AD and save

[BigFurryMonster]

(edit: this report is until 490, not 470)
(edit: the save is in this thread)

GAME REPORT 440-490 AD
Sunday, October 6th, 2002, 18:30 GMT

General
We conquer the Persian Capital (again…) and then we kick them out of their original homeland alltogether. Then we make peace. The Aztecs seem too fast for us in their conquest of America. We re-negotiate some peace deals. Then, the chat froze up around 490 AD...

Analysis: We're considering switching to Republic.

Military
460 Persian city of Arbela conquered. Their Capital moves to Hamadan.
460 Persian city of Antioch conquered.
460 The Persians accept our Peace Terms (Education, Invention and their World Map)
470 Peace re-negotiated with several Civs.

Analysis: There is a general discussion on when to build ships, and which type. Discovering the Lost Civs first could give us financial and/or technological advantages. First though, we'll have to acquire the appriopriate techs.

Cities
440 The French city of Chartres decides to join the Apolytonian Empire.
450 Colony Founded (Incense) (near Susa)
460 New City Founded: "Hole in Wall" (1 tile south of the 'old' city of Hole in Wall)
460 New City Founded: "Thebes" (on the west coast of Uber Isle)
470 Tombstone is abandoned by building a settler. Tombstone Pizzas Football Team are looking for a new home ground.
490 A Temple was rushed in Arbela.

Analysis: The Government is concerned about possible 'Culture Flipping' of the city of Arbela. This would mean the loss of our three Spice Resources, two of which we are currently trading. It would mean damage to our repuation.

Trades
450 (We give) Incense; (Romans give) 6 g, 10 gpt and their World Map.
460 (Persians give) Education, Invention and their World Map; (We give) Peace.
470 We re-negotiate peace with Germany: (We give) Peace (Germany gives) 15 g and 7 gpt
470 We re-negotiate peace with Greece: (We give) Peace (Greece gives) World Map
470 Spice deal. (We give) Spices; (Germany gives) 8g and 7 gpt.
470 We re-negotiate peace with the Aztecs: (We give) Peace (Aztecs give) 23 g.
470 We re-negotiate peace with the Babylonians: (We give) Peace (Babylonians give) 2g, a Worker and World Map.
470 We re-negotiate peace with the Iroquois: (We give) Peace (Iroquois give) 2g and World Map.
470 We re-negotiate peace with France: (We give) Peace (France gives) 18g and World Map.
470 We re-negotiate peace with England: (We give) Peace, Spices (England gives) 19g, Music Theory and World Map.
470 We re-negotiate peace with Russia: (We give) Peace (Russia gives) World Map.
470 We re-negotiate peace with Rome: (We give) Peace (Rome gives) 5g, 3 gpt and World Map.

Science
460 Education and Invention gained from Persians.
470 Music Theory acquired from the English.

Analysis: Rome, Greece and Germany have Astronomy.

Foreign
450 The Aztecs take the American city of Chicago
490 Rome and Germany now have Gunpowder (cost: at least 1033 g). It is unknown if they have access to Saltpeter.

Analysis: Rome has been exploring the seas west of the Iroquois.

Next Turnchat
Thursday, October 10th, 2002, 22:00 GMT or the Saturday after that.

[E_T]

Quick Rundown for 490AD

Rome & Germany Have Gunpowder. It is unknown if they have access to Saltpeter.

Rome, Greece & Germany Have Astronomy. Aztecs still have the Lighthouse.

We are Even Technologically with England, Russia & Persia.

Aztecs, Iroquois, France & Babylon Need Education.

Iroquois, France & Babylon Need Invention.

America is Hopeless and will be a memory in a few turns.

We have traded the newly aquired Incense & Spices.

Rome has been doing some Exploring at Sea as evidenced by the map that we got from them. Look west of Iroquois land and you'll see. No one has found the other Civs yet.

The Civs that are deficient in our newly accuired technologies are so broke that they can barely pay their own people, little alone us for any technologies. This might change soon, but not likely in the next 5 turns.

More detailed report to follow in a day or two.

[EDIT] Rome, which is more favorable towards us wants 1033 Lytons for Gunpowder and more for Astronomy. The cost of buying Technologies is starting to get very prohibitive. We will most likely have to work on researching them ourselves.

E_T

[Apocalypse]

I guess we'll just have to buy Gunpowder from Germany or Rome then sell it to Greece for Astronomy all the while hoping we are connected to Saltpeter in about 4 areas so we can pay for this great feat.

[Epistax]

Main log

[Epistax]

Ministers Log

[GhengisFarbâ„¢]

Originally posted by Epistax
Ministers Log

Are you going to post a transaction in the $Mini-game session. The first two posts list your production AND your stockpile.

On Topic: How many workers did we capture/buy?

[BigFurryMonster]

Edited with new info. Goverment - please PM me about the events between 470 and 490.

[OPD]

This is good BFM. ATM poly takes 51 seconds to load each page for me. Which is why I couldn't continue with the poly chat. Will post a report when poly gets better.

The only major thing is that we traded a load of spice when we shouldn't have.

[BigFurryMonster]

We 'forgot' to trade the Spice for nice technology. Instead, we got some Lytons out of it. Now, we don't have some spare Spice to spare (try saying that 10 times fast).

[Shiber]

I failed on the 8th time.

[joncnunn]

We need to buy Gun Powder from the Romans with the neighboring Germans also possesing it ASAP.

Tech whoring of Gunpowder with other civs after we acquire this for more peaceful techs + gold is also recommended.

[Togas]

FAM Plans

We aquired Education, Invention, Music Theory, and made a heck of a lot of gold in the previous turnchat. We really couldn't have done much better, folks. We now have an amazing income and a great deal of extra cash which we should invest in our nation's infrastructure. We need to spend this money on markets, courthouses, and libraries as we are about to switch to Republic and enter a Golden Age.

During our GA we will have the cash and income necessary to purchase Gunpowder and trade it for Astronomy. Hopefully we won't have to do many more trades like this in the future, as we develop our own research facilities.

As a note: For some reason most of our neighbors are exceptionally broke right now. Some techwhoring and trading was explored in the previous chat but there was just no market out there for our knowledge. We soaked up most of the excess cash with our lux deals.

--Togas

[Shiber]

I sympathize with Togas. The typical AI behavior of never saving cash and instead blowing it all as soon as they have a decent amount is bad for business, as well as irritating.

[OPD]

Originally posted by BigFurryMonster
We 'forgot' to trade the Spice for nice technology. Instead, we got some Lytons out of it. Now, we don't have some spare Spice to spare (try saying that 10 times fast).

No we shouldn't have traded it at all.
I'm thinking about calling for an emergency cabinet meeting over this.

[joncnunn]

I hope the price we traded that last spiece for was the full value and not 1 GPT less than ("Can't be done")