We =need= ships!

[Aggie]

I agree and am hereby announcing a new deputy position under me. This position will be called SMC Deputy In charge of Sea Charting and Ocean exploration or SMCdisco. This postion ,not to be jokingly refered to as disco duck, will oversee naval force creation and movement and make request to the SMC for boats to be built/upgraded and harbors built. The SMC will consider these request and if approved will forward to CP. Anybody who wants this job please pm me. This person will have a HUGE impact on the games future since a good exploration program is priceless. Also I intend to give this person much freedom, since what is the purpose of creating such a position if the person jsut does what I say, I want somebody with a definite plan.
Aggie

[BigFurryMonster]

Priorities:
1. Build more galleys
2. Send the galleys to the east and west tips of our continent
3. Acquire Astronomy
4. Travel on the seas
5. Acquire Navigation
6. Travel on the ocean
7. Discover the Lost Civs
8. Make HUGE profits from selling tech, maps, luxuries and resources around
9. Win the Game.

[GhengisFarbâ„¢]

Originally posted by Aggie
I agree and am hereby announcing a new deputy position under me. This position will be called SMC Deputy In charge of Sea Charting and Ocean exploration or SMCdisco. This postion ,not to be jokingly refered to as disco duck, will oversee naval force creation and movement and make request to the SMC for boats to be built/upgraded and harbors built. The SMC will consider these request and if approved will forward to CP. Anybody who wants this job please pm me. This person will have a HUGE impact on the games future since a good exploration program is priceless. Also I intend to give this person much freedom, since what is the purpose of creating such a position if the person jsut does what I say, I want somebody with a definite plan.
Aggie

Whoah there, Nellie. Exploration is under Imperial Expansion not warfighting. Hence the name Imperial Expansion.............

And I already recommended Sir Ralph be in charge of the operation as he has a lot of experience with this tactic.

[Shiber]

Did he accept?
I know Sir Ralph doesn't have a lot of time to participate in the demogame.

[GhengisFarbâ„¢]

Originally posted by Shiber
Did he accept?
I know Sir Ralph doesn't have a lot of time to participate in the demogame.

Sir Ralph has had a breakdown and appears obsessed with Macross City. I think he's found himself a couple of dainty French twins in a tavern there and that's all he can think about anymore................

[Shiber]

Originally posted by GhengisFarb

Sir Ralph has had a breakdown and appears obsessed with Macross City. I think he's found himself a couple of dainty French twins in a tavern there and that's all he can think about anymore................

[Donegeal]

Ghengis is probably right that the position should be under MoIE. But that Name! The name of the position is enough to make people want to run for the post!


D.I.S.C.O. Duck....


Too perfect...

[Aggie]

Actually this is a discussion that we had a long long long long time ago. At the time Pres. Trip said boats are units and units are under the SMC. An analogy is early in the game when warrior are largely just exploring. Then they were still under SMC. However at the time I did make the point that galley(and early boats) really weren't combat units, so I think it would be reasonable to put this under the MoIE, but would like the input of our nation first. Actually lets start a thread.
Aggie

[BigFurryMonster]

Let's not make a fuss about which kind of units fall under what jurisdiction.

Let's build ships.

[joncnunn]

On the original topic.

No new ships needed until Navigation. The coastal cities like the land ones are behind in inferstructure.

If we aren't actively using the Galleys send them to a Harbor so they upgraded. Send the Carvells out exploring being sure to end movement on sea tiles where we wouldn't be violating treatries.

After one of them expands our knowledge of the sea around Uber Island, that one should probably return home to a harbor so it can be upgraded to Galleon. (Exception: if another land mass found near Uber Island.)

By the time we have Navigation, our coastal cities can afford building a few Galleons which can safey explore the ocean.

[Shiber]

I disagree. We need to build galleys now and move them to sea squares as soon as Astronomy is available to us, and then send them out into the ocean to explore as soon as we have Navigation. If we wait for Navigation and then produce the galleys we'll find the lost civs a few turns later.

[joncnunn]

Galleons can move faster than Galleys / Caravels, so by having existing naval units in harbors when we get Navigation so they can be upgraded immedately we'll cut a few turns off traveling the lost distance.

[Shiber]

Oh, I see now what you meant. Yes, you're absolutely right joncnunn. Sorry.

[Kloreep]

Actually, 2 points, which I think argue for building galleys now. Galleons come with Magnetism, which is a while off still, and Caravels are not faster than galleys; they're just better defended and can carry more.

[joncnunn]

Oh, yeah, I moded my own game by moving Galleons & Privs to Navigation, and making it a required tech as well as a prereq to Magnetism.

Magnetism is a ways off.

We're still better off sending Caravels into the ocean than Galleys. (Lower sink rates.)