$Mini-Game TRADING SESSION TEN (10)

[UnOrthOdOx]

Is there even ANY demand yet? Are we still at 0%?

I thought 'market' was meaning per city.

[GhengisFarbâ„¢]

House Ghengis Land Holdings in the Province of Mingapulco......Turn #: 010
Holdings:
House Ghengis:
"Ghengis Mountain" -8a- BHQ N (mountain)
"Jungesse" -8b- Tassagrad W (jungle), Tassagrad NW (jungle)
"Jungundy" -8c- Termina ene (mined grass rd), Apolyton nnw (mined grass rd), Tassagrad SE (grassland), Tassagrad S (grass rd, mine)
"Apolyfield" -8d- Apolyton NW (grass)


Managed
for Captain: BHQ W (grass)
for =OttomusCeasar=: Tassagrad N (Grass), BHQ wnw (Jungle), BHQ wsw (Jungle, Gotham NE (Jungle)
Leased
from civman2000: Apolyton nne (grass)
from rendelnep: Termina E (grass)

Stockpile(s):
GhengisFarb Estate:......0 food, 7 shields, 3 commerce (1 halfShield, 8 Ale)
civman2000 Estate:.......0 food, 0 shields, 0 commerce
rendelnep Estate:........0 food, 0 shields, 0 commerce
TOTAL STOCKPILE..........0 food, 7 shields, 3 commerce (1 halfShields, 8 Ale)
Captain Estate...........0 food, 2 shields, 0 commerce
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=OttomusCeasar= Estate...0 food, 0 shields, 0 commerce
STOREHOUSE and 2 vassals
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Cash: $1590
Debt: $0
Buildings:
STOREHOUSE ON ESTATE OF GHENGISFARB
Banana King Tavern Chain
TAVERN IN TASSAGRAD
TAVERN IN APOLYTON
TAVERN IN BHQ
Apolytonian Markets
SHOPPE IN TASSAGRAD
SHOPPE IN APOLYTON
SHOPPE IN BHQ

DUFF'S BREWERY in "Jungundy" - Termina ene (mined grass rd),
GHENGIS BREWING COMPANY on "Ghengis Mountain" - BHQ N

Vassals:
GhengisFarb Estate: 2 French
TOTAL VASSALS: 2 French

Administered by: GhengisFarb, First Ghengis of House Ghengis
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Production this turn: 19 food, 9 shields, 9 commerce
Captain's Estate: 2 food, 1 shield, 2 commerce
=OttomusCeasar='s Estate: 5 food, 1 shield, 2 commerce
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Proposed Deals: 
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MANAGED ESTATES
Captain sells 2 food @ $1 minimum
Captain sells 3 shields @ $1 minimum
=OttomusCeasar= rents 2 vassals to GhengisFarb @ $20
Vassals eat 1 food
=OttomusCeasar= sells 4 food @ $1 minimum
=OttomusCeasar= sells 1 shield @ $1 minimum
=OttomusCeasar= sells 2 commerce @ D/S to GhengisFarb
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PERSONAL AND LEASED ESTATES
Buy 2 commerce from =OttomusCeasar= @ D/S
Hire 2 vassals from =OttomusCeasar= at $20 each

Hire 2 labor from BHQ @ no more than $150
Hire 5 labor from Tassagrad @ no more than $150
Hire 1 labor from Termina @ no more than $150
Hire 4 labor from Apolyton @ no more than $150

Use 2 BHQ labor and my 2 vassals to convert 8 food into 8 Ale in 
     Ghengis Brewing Company (BHQ N (mountain))
Use 4 Apolyton labor and 1 Tassagrad labor to build Brewery 
     on tile Apolyton nnw (mined grass road)
Use 1 Termina labor and 2 vassals from =OttomusCeasar= to build Tavern in Termina.
Use 4 Tassagrad labor to convert 8 food into 8 Ale in Duff's 
     Brewery (Termina ene (mined grass road))

Excess Vassals eat 1 food
Sell 1 food in Tassagrad @ $1 minimum through Tavern
Sell 4 Ale in Tassagrad @ $1 minimum through Tavern
Sell 4 Ale in Termina at $1 minimum
Sell 14 commerce @ minimum price of $1 through Shoppes

Pay civman2000 $175 rent 
Pay rendelnep $175 rent 

Bid $5 each on 4 vassals any nationality (in case no one else bids)

Crud, the only operating Tavern I had was the one in Tassagrad as the other two didn't have any alcohol in their radius. So the Banana King Taverns in BHQ and Apolyton were empty, and the one in Apoly will be empty next turn too.

Originally posted by UnOrthOdOx
Is there even ANY demand yet? Are we still at 0%?

I thought 'market' was meaning per city.

There is currently a demand of "1". But it will improve with libraries and when the Market opens (libraries/universities in larger cities will drastically increase the Literacy rate). I'm thinking it would be easier to have one HUGE market with local markets for alcohol, etc. Keep Uber a separate Market and you have to have stuff shipped between the two with boats.

[UnOrthOdOx]

Gazette Estates:

Produce: 7 food, 2 shield, 3 Commerce
Stockpile: 2 shield, 1 Commerce
Cash 691, debt 900

Proposed deals: (leave shoppe reg shoppe for now)

Hire 2 labor @ $25 each (Kloreep?)
Hire 1 Labor Termina $200 max
5 labor work 3 half shields and 2 shields on my estate.
2 labor work 2 shields in Lumbermill
Sell 7 food @ $1 Min
Sell 4 Commerce through Shoppe @ $1 Min

Bid $25 EA. on all 4 Sla...er...workers Nationality doesn't matter.

[jdd2007]

Estate of jdd2007: The Jungle Farm[insert trademark symbol here]

Production: 6 food, 1 shield, 5 Commerce
Stockpile: 1 shield, 5 commerce
Cash:
Debt: $0

Proposed deals:

Sell 6 Food @ min. $1
Sell 2 Shield @ min. $1
Sell 10 Commerce @ min. $1

[GhengisFarbâ„¢]

Apolytonian Abolitionist Society

AAS requests all Apolytonians boycott products with connection to our nation's largest slave(vassal) owners:
1) UnOrthOdOx, owner of 4 Persian vassals
2) GhengisFarb, owner of 2 French vassals
2) Kloreep, owner of 2 Persian vassals
3) =OttomusCeasar=, owner of 1 French and 1 Persian vassal.

This abomination must stop!

Note that immediately after this inappropriate display the rioters were promptly beaten by their lords.

Help! Help! I'm being repressed!

[UnOrthOdOx]

Woohoo!!!! I am the biggest slave master!!!!

[GhengisFarbâ„¢]

Originally posted by jdd2007
Estate of jdd2007: The Jungle Farm[insert trademark symbol here]

Production: 6 food, 1 shield, 5 Commerce
Stockpile: 1 shield, 5 commerce
Cash:
Debt: $0

Proposed deals:

Sell 6 Food @ min. $1
Sell 2 Shield @ min. $1
Sell 10 Commerce @ min. $1

Arggh! Why aren't you bidding on vassals to build something on your tile Tassagrad nnw? It is the ONLY tile in the game that is in THREE cities' radii (Tassagrad, BHQ, and Gotham). It's not like anyone can outbid you on the vassals.

Originally posted by UnOrthOdOx
Gazette Estates:

Produce: 7 food, 2 shield, 3 Commerce

Sell 7 food @ $1 Min

You realize that your vassals will runaway if you don't feed them right?

[jdd2007]

i dont really understand the whole building system, and since i havent produced shields until now, i havent worried about buildings. now that i am, however, i will take your suggestion and start construction of some stuff. how should i begin this, GF?

how much cash do i have, btw?

[GhengisFarbâ„¢]

STOCKPILES:
jdd2007 ( 1 shield, 5 commerce)


PRODUCTION: If I've made a mistake let me know.
jdd2007 (6 food, 1 shield, 5 commerce)
jdd2007 (Cash $468, Debt $0)

I would get two vassals this turn. And then next turn start building a Brewery. OR you could hire labor from Gotham, BHQ, or Tassagrad to work on this turn. Next turn will be cheaper for labor as there won't be so many people competing for it, but you're the only one who would hire it from Gotham. That Brewery could sell alcohol in any of those three cities and you could build a Tavern or Bar in them to get a higher sell price.

[adaMada]

Two questions as I'm trying to write up my transactions for this turn for the first time in... well, a while .

1) If you have a vassal, you have to set aside one food per turn, but you have one free labor that you can use at any time? Is that correct?

2) A halfshield is worth half of a shield, so it takes six halfshields to build a retail business that takes three shields, right? Does it take one worker per halfsield, then? Besides halfshields being half as expensive, what's the functional difference?

Finally, am I correct in reading that the bonus from a retail business requires no labor to get, once the business has been built?

Thanks to anyone who can help...

-- adaMada

[GhengisFarbâ„¢]

Originally posted by adaMada
Two questions as I'm trying to write up my transactions for this turn for the first time in... well, a while .

1) If you have a vassal, you have to set aside one food per turn, but you have one free labor that you can use at any time? Is that correct?

Vassals eat 1 food for every 2 vassals. 1-2 vassals eat 1 food, 3-4 vassals would eat 2 food, etc. They are just like labor, all you have to do is feed them. If you build something in a city, you have to hire at least 1 local labor for each project each turn you are building on it. As long as at least 1 labor is local you can use as many vassals for additional labor though.

Originally posted by adaMada
2) A halfshield is worth half of a shield, so it takes six halfshields to build a retail business that takes three shields, right? Does it take one worker per halfsield, then? Besides halfshields being half as expensive, what's the functional difference?

A halfShield sells for half the price of a shield but works the same as shield for building. Think of a shield as a big log, and halfShields as thinner lumber made from a log. So a Shoppe would take 3 shields OR 3 halfShields.

Originally posted by adaMada
Finally, am I correct in reading that the bonus from a retail business requires no labor to get, once the business has been built?

Correct, it only requires a shopkeep which is insignificant in game terms.

[adaMada]

Ok, thanks Ghengis.

Will start on my transactions now.

-- adaMada

[adaMada]

Sorry if I made any mistakes; let me know if I did.

I'm guessing I've got to spend a turn or two collecting cash before I can start doing things -- loans from the gov't are for land only, correct (not stuff like bidding on vassals and building buildings)?

Ghengis, is this format ok? If you prefer any others (I see about three throughout this thread), then I'm happy to do whichever -- I just copied this one since it seemed simple and both jdjd and UnOrthO were using it.

-- adaMada

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Estate of adaMada

Production: 2 food, 1 shield, 1 commerce
Stockpile: 4 halfshields
Cash: $0
Debt: $0

Proposed deals:

Sell 2 Food @ min. $1
Sell 1 Shield @ min. $50
Sell 1 Commerce @ min. $1

[GhengisFarbâ„¢]

Originally posted by adaMada
Ghengis, is this format ok? If you prefer any others (I see about three throughout this thread), then I'm happy to do whichever -- I just copied this one since it seemed simple and both jdjd and UnOrthO were using it.

That's fine, as long as its obvious what you want and you put in the Food, Shield, Commerce order I won't have a problem with it.

[Kloreep]

Edit: Whoops, I made a proposal without realizing it would be useless to me; I really shouldn't mini-game this late.

Anyway: Unortho, I'll rent my 2 vassals to you for 25$ each as proposed.