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**adaMada** · October 2, 2002, 17:28

Just been thinking for a few minutes.

If we had a forum mod. active in the demogame, here's what I think it'd be really useful for them to do:

Top/Detop appropriate posts
Fix user mistakes in thread titles upon request (For instance, Ghengis accidentally named the $-mini-game thread (for Markos's sake, an official thread) incorrectly -- with a mod around, that could be fixed easily)
Delete any posts in official threads clearly marked DO NOT POST. People accidentally post in threads they're not supposed to at times, and in this case, it's a mistake they can't fix. If you've got a mod who's around enough, though, then it'd be fixable, and there'd be no harm done.
Closing threads where the first poster requests it as because there's another thread on the topic. We often see messed up polls and repolls, and it'd be nice if the old (defunct) version could just be closed.
Finally, to perhaps avoid the problem above point blank, allow the mod to edit poll choices upon request of poster (for official polls).

Of course, this sounds like a lot more then Markos originally intended, and I wouldn't blame him for crossing this out as too much potential for abuse, but these are all things that it'd be really cool if we could do on our own, without having to go to a gOd to fix our mistakes -- as it is, we let most of them stand. We don't need someone to fix little things like that, but it'd make the forums a lot cleaner, nicer to read, and might eliminate some confusion amoung new players who may not realize that something's an error. If there ever was abuse, then the mod would obviously be suspended... Finally, I'm not sure if 'any mod' can do all of the above, or only the gOdz. If the power lies with the gOdz, then forget that I ever suggested it

.

-- adaMada

**adaMada** · October 2, 2002, 17:47

Sorry to post AGAIN, but one last thought

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Markos, if we're considering moving chats over to the poly chat (at least doing a dual chat), any chance you could up the flood limit a bit, at least in the civ 3 room? I'm a very fast typist, and I often get 'noflood' with legit conversation, which could be annoying if an important decision needed to be made and I couldn't comment for thirty seconds or however long

. Not asking you to get rid of it or anything, but it'd be real nice if it could be increased a bit.

-- adaMada

**Apocalypse** · October 2, 2002, 21:24

I'm not going to run for anything next term (need a break from that) so I should be free to be a mod.

**OPD** · October 2, 2002, 21:38

Any objections to apocs modship?

Feel free to pm me if you don't want any secret hate campaign against him to become public or any other reason.

**adaMada** · October 2, 2002, 21:42

No objections to Apoc.

In a few terms, I'd love to try it (if the position rotates), but I'm a patient person, and Apoc's awsome for the job

, and I've got more than enough to do, soo...

Apoc! Mod of the C3DG! gOd in training

! Apoc! Apoc! Apoc!

-- adaMada

**Inverse Icarus** · October 2, 2002, 21:57

Originally posted by MarkG
we are willing to trust the choice of the people, assuming it's a choice that we like

meaning not uber. gotcha.

**Inverse Icarus** · October 2, 2002, 22:00

Originally posted by OPD
Any objections to apocs modship?

Feel free to pm me if you don't want any secret hate campaign against him to become public or any other reason.

HOW DID YOU FIND OUT ABOUT THE TOP SECRET HATE CAMPA...

oh, you said IF. uh.

carry on.

**Sheik** · October 3, 2002, 16:16

Apoc is a fine choice. Although if people wanted we could have an election.

**GodKing** · October 3, 2002, 18:08

I want the job also. It should work very well with my schedule I suspect, and would keep me involved.

I suspect that others might like it as well, UnOrthOdOx, UberKruX, GhengisFarb, among others who may not yet have posted (skywalker, panag.....

).

Lets put it up for an election. MarkG is willing to let us do it as such, and that is by far the most democratic way. If it is an election I think MarkG will have to set some guidelines, most particularly term of office. What say all? Election? let MarkG pick from those who have posted? some other method (if so, better post it!!)? IF it is an election, MarkG can set it up so that anybody he would object to he can let them know privately (so as not to embarass them.... sorry panag....).

In regards to the chats, for the most part they have gone well without a lot of moderation. I would look at that as secondary to this position. If it starts to become a problem, then we can change the way we do things to adjust as appropriate.

GK

**Inverse Icarus** · October 3, 2002, 19:08

markg doesn't like me so elect me to piss him off

nah, s'ok. i'll wait till there's an opening in the OT

**adaMada** · October 3, 2002, 20:18

Originally posted by GodKing
I want the job also. It should work very well with my schedule I suspect, and would keep me involved.

I suspect that others might like it as well, UnOrthOdOx, UberKruX, GhengisFarb, among others who may not yet have posted (skywalker, panag.....

).

Lets put it up for an election. MarkG is willing to let us do it as such, and that is by far the most democratic way. If it is an election I think MarkG will have to set some guidelines, most particularly term of office. What say all? Election? let MarkG pick from those who have posted? some other method (if so, better post it!!)? IF it is an election, MarkG can set it up so that anybody he would object to he can let them know privately (so as not to embarass them.... sorry panag....).

In regards to the chats, for the most part they have gone well without a lot of moderation. I would look at that as secondary to this position. If it starts to become a problem, then we can change the way we do things to adjust as appropriate.

GK

Election's fine with me, though for this one time it might be more convienent to just let OPD nominate Apoc and let him do it for the next term.

Most important question for me is if we really need someone with no other positions for the job... On one hand, I see the enormous potential for abuse of power. On the other, the abuse of power is there if the person is a minister or not, and I it might be best to let the people choose whoever they want to trust this with, Minister or not -- A trustworthy person clearly could do both jobs impartially and fairly, especially as the job is basically Administrative (I don't think Markos is talking about letting this person make decisions about which threads are worthwhile or not, though hopefully the person would have the power to close/delete/rename (most important one I think) threads upon request).

If we do an election, I might consider running, mainly depending on who else runs, how long the terms are, and what else Markos decides. I'd be interested in the job eventually, but am in no rush, so

.

I'd also like to reiterate my support for OPD just nominating Apoc (with the consent of the gOdz). Administrative Modship is a logical Presidental power (when I first joined the game, I was honestly shocked that the president had no mod-type powers), Apoc's good for the job, and will be free next term. If we want to get a position set up for the longer run, we can make it elected, but why not let Apoc have the job now so he can go ahead and get to work?

Last but not least, I'm taking public opinion on weather this should be part of the new constitution (for my own personal vote/proposals, not on behalf of the Convention)... I'd probably say not (Senate can decide procedures under the direction of the gOdz, who have final say), but I always like to ask the public's opinion.

-- adaMada

**UnOrthOdOx** · October 3, 2002, 21:58

If we MUST have someone who can make all chats, count me out.

I have enough to keep me occupied and active, and by no means do I NEED something else. I am already a Priest, doing the newZupdate ritual most weeks, I have no need to become a Prophet as well.

Terms? If they are allowed, they might be nice.

Hadn't thought of people abusing this power, really. Any such abuse WILL be found, and will likely result in a banning or some such. Besides, there are not too many people here I think would even be possible of considering such a thing.

Constitution? If terms are set, may as well put this in the constitution.

**Apocalypse** · October 3, 2002, 22:05

Originally posted by UnOrthOdOx
I have no need to become a Prophet as well.

At one time I was called a Prophet

That was almost 4 years ago though.

**adaMada** · October 3, 2002, 22:12

Originally posted by UnOrthOdOx
If we MUST have someone who can make all chats, count me out.

Ditto me -- might make most, but can never promise.

I have enough to keep me occupied and active, and by no means do I NEED something else. I am already a Priest, doing the newZupdate ritual most weeks, I have no need to become a Prophet as well.

Terms? If they are allowed, they might be nice.

It'd be nice to hear from Markos a bit about terms -- is he looking for one perminant mod, one mod for a while, or mods switching every once and a while? Does he need a mod with no other role in the game, or does he just want someone that the people can trust? How much power is he willing to let this person have as an Administrator (as I've said many times before, editing titles, closing threads, deleting threads, etc?)?

Hadn't thought of people abusing this power, really. Any such abuse WILL be found, and will likely result in a banning or some such. Besides, there are not too many people here I think would even be possible of considering such a thing.

I agree that it's not a major concern, but MarkG might not... I trust most of the people here, but I'd be cautious too in assiging an adminstrator were this my forums and I didn't follow the game.

Constitution? If terms are set, may as well put this in the constitution.

The problem is that the gOdz aren't bound by the constitution at all, and if they decide to change things, there'd be a conflict. We could word the constitution so this didn't happen, but I'd personally be inclined to just leave it out and let the Senate pass laws on it.

-- adaMada

**UnOrthOdOx** · October 3, 2002, 22:17

Originally posted by adaMada
The problem is that the gOdz aren't bound by the constitution at all, and if they decide to change things, there'd be a conflict. We could word the constitution so this didn't happen, but I'd personally be inclined to just leave it out and let the Senate pass laws on it.

-- adaMada

No, but WE are bound by gOd. (there is ONE with two facez people...) There is nothing wrong with writing it in so the new people can read WHY our Prophet is voted upon. If gOd changes it, well, that is an amendment that can pass with no voting, right?

Senate?

Laws?

I know of no such things. And while I have yur attention, I just posted a couple of polls you will want to add.

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