World Factbook Entry for Apolytonia

[Sean]

A truely amazing effort!

Sean.

[Duddha]

all I have to say is wow!, simply amazing.

[Reddawg]

Arnelos I love what you've done here, it's very fun. You have a few ideas that I had not thought of (arable land, counting of tiles [ok I thought of that but do not have time to do it] and the breakdown of occupation of the citizens). I'm not worried about competition though, as civman said (notice he cites my statistics at least twice). you can mooch from my stats as much as you like as long as each instance is credited, its cool with me. as long as we dont step on eachothers toes (or, well, yours on mine lol)! good job

oh... a question. what is the differentiation between "French" and "French-Apolytonian", or "American" or "American-Apolytonian"?

[Arnelos]

Originally posted by adaMada
Very nice job Arnelos!

Very useful information...

What section of the Directory do you want it to go under? Does Executive sound good -- that's where I'm putting most other general information?

Don't really care, that's your job

Also, if this is going to be periodical, will it all be within one thread, or will it be a series of them? (Sorry to ask all these annoying questions, but I've found that things are a lot easier if you can plan ahead...)

I figure at this point it might very well be periodical. The VAST MAJORITY of the work I did was trying to figure out HOW to determine all of that stuff. Now that I know how I'm going to do it next time, it will be a lot easier (and A LOT less time consuming) the next time.

As for whether a single thread or multiple threads would be used, dunno... I can see why it would be useful to do either. Personally, I'm partial to starting a new thread (so that people can point out typos and mistakes w/o me having to wade through 2-10 pages of other posts about previous versions). But having it always be the same thread makes it easier for you to link to it from the directory.

So which do you think would be better?

[Arnelos]

Originally posted by Reddawg
Arnelos I love what you've done here, it's very fun. You have a few ideas that I had not thought of (arable land, counting of tiles [ok I thought of that but do not have time to do it] and the breakdown of occupation of the citizens). I'm not worried about competition though, as civman said (notice he cites my statistics at least twice). you can mooch from my stats as much as you like as long as each instance is credited, its cool with me. as long as we dont step on eachothers toes (or, well, yours on mine lol)! good job

oh... a question. what is the differentiation between "French" and "French-Apolytonian", or "American" or "American-Apolytonian"?

As *I* said in my post, I'm not even attempting to compete with you as basically all I did was collect some of the same type of information and repackage it (though there is some new information that was an absolute pain in the arse to figure out how to determine). What I've created is more for "fun" and/or aesthetic than especially original and/or practical.

And yes, I made sure to cite you where appropriate

If you'd like, I'll share with you how I decided to compute those % of labor force, GDP, and other stats broken down by sector (that was the most frustrating to come up with a good way to determine).

Thanks.

[Arnelos]

Originally posted by Reddawg

oh... a question. what is the differentiation between "French" and "French-Apolytonian", or "American" or "American-Apolytonian"?

Oops, missed your last question.

Apolytonian: Citizens in a city that was founded by an apolytonian settler unit.

French/Persian/American-Apolytonian: Citizens in a city that was originally founded by another civilization that has now been assimiliated into Apolytonian culture.

French/Persian/American: Unassimilated foreigners under Apolytonian rule.

This required looking a ways back in the old save files and old threads I could find on the boards. I also took a look at the oldest maps I could find on Aro's cite (so thanks are owed to Aro, too ) on what cities were originally founded by which civ's. The idea here is that their ethnicity has not changed, merely that they're no longer resisting Apolytonian control (thus Apolytonia, much like ancient Rome, will become a large multi-ethnic empire if it continues to expand).

I think that covers that one.

[BigFurryMonster]

GREAT job! Now, do such an analysis for the Persians too..!

[Arnelos]

Originally posted by BigFurryMonster
GREAT job! Now, do such an analysis for the Persians too..!

Obvious problem there is that I don't have access to the same information

[Arnelos]

Edit: I changed the party leader of DIA from Spiffor to Thud (oops on thinking it was Spiffor... he just seems more active in the DIA threads )

[adaMada]

Originally posted by Arnelos

So which do you think would be better?

Either's totally fine -- I see merits to both. If you make it periodical, I'll just link it in the directory by date, so it's not a problem at all -- I only ask since if I'm going to have to create a subsection for it it's easiest to do it early.

-- adaMada

[zeit]

Great work Arnelos, perhaps we should try and make reports like that about the other countries as well, with our (limited) information about these countries, and post them, so that the people could know what we're facing.

btw- do we have an intelligence agency?
although we havn't actually discovered espionage, we should try to get as much information on our neighbors as possible, creating some intelligence agency of sorts, bound to the president and the appropriate ministers.
what do you think?

[Sheik]

Exactly the kind of intelligence report we would appreciate when playing against another community.

Playing against other communities is going to be great.

[Aro]

Originally posted by zeit
Great work Arnelos, perhaps we should try and make reports like that about the other countries as well, with our (limited) information about these countries, and post them, so that the people could know what we're facing.

btw- do we have an intelligence agency?
although we havn't actually discovered espionage, we should try to get as much information on our neighbors as possible, creating some intelligence agency of sorts, bound to the president and the appropriate ministers.
what do you think?

I agree with most of said here, especially about the great job done by Arnelos. However, I love the zeit's idea too - an intelligence department. We have some resources that we need to put together. The Reddawg’s stats, the Arnelo's report, the maps, the luxury market (GePap), the Shiber’s investigations about trades... I strongly support the creation of the office of intelligence, maybe with an official elected.

[Zero]

playing PtW demo is gonna be GREAT~

BtW, Nice job arnelos

[adaMada]

Originally posted by Aro

I agree with most of said here, especially about the great job done by Arnelos. However, I love the zeit's idea too - an intelligence department. We have some resources that we need to put together. The Reddawg’s stats, the Arnelo's report, the maps, the luxury market (GePap), the Shiber’s investigations about trades... I strongly support the creation of the office of intelligence, maybe with an official elected.

Do we really need a full department for the issue? Couldn't it just be a subbranch/responsibility of Foreign Affiars -- we produce a ton of this information anyway, and it's the logical place...

Just a thought.

-- adaMada