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  • #1

    What time is it?!?!?!

    One last thing, if my brain can stay coherent a bit longer (0345 here).

    The chat was scheduled to start at 0900 GMT/0400EST. I know there has been a 5 hour time difference for ages, since chats were ALWAYS 0900/0400. BUT, for some reason this time the ESTers told me I was late (I was there at 2030 my time = 0830GMT and I THOUGHT 0330 EST). There was no one there but WhiteBandit and GodKing so it was no issue. But then Shiber (IIRC) and someone else (can't remember who - sorry! Aro?) turned up and told me I was on time GMT.

    My question is this: is there a 5 or 4 hour gap between GMT and EST now? When did it change? Am I posting this at 1550 GMT and 1150 EST? What time is it in both of these zones that I am posting this?

    Fortunately this didn't cause any problems this time around, but it might. I want this straight, from ppl who actually live in EST/GMT.

    Thanks.
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  • #2
    Right now, it's 11:52 EST.

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    • #3
      No its 10:52 est and 11:52 EDT, we have daylight savings time. That is the source of the error.
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      • #4
        Re: What time is it?!?!?!

        But then Shiber (IIRC) and someone else (can't remember who - sorry! Aro?) turned up and told me I was on time GMT.

        It was astrologix !
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Aggie
          No its 10:52 est and 11:52 EDT, we have daylight savings time. That is the source of the error.
          Aggie
          Wouldn't it still be 11:52 EST, since that's the current time in the EST zone (lets say New York for convienence), even if it is in DST?

          Basically, isn't 5:00 EST Five AM in New York, weather DST is occuring or not?

          , I never thought times were confusing before...

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          • #6
            You weren't on time. You were one hour early (we began at 10:00 GMT).
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            • #7
              Adamada, I'm in central time, during summer CDT=EST, EDT = AST right now it is 11:34 here so it is 11:34 EST. The reason I mentioned the daylight time was that I suspect that's confusing some people here in the states. And here's why, GMT doesn't change, during winter(non DST) NY is -5 from gmt, during some it is -4 and central is -5. It is weird when you start having to think about one time varying and one time constant. NOW if you live in arizona you have no problem they don't do DST.
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              • #8
                Shiber,
                I am in Switzerland. This morning i logged into the chat at 10:50 swiss local time. It was 9:50 UK and 8:50 GMT.
                Im am 100% sure that MrWIA was right. The chat began at 9:00 GMT !

                Right now it is 18:38 swiss local time, 17:38 UK time and 16:38 GMT. I've cheked this in the BBC's web page http://news.bbc.co.uk/
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                • #9
                  Oh wait, you're absolutely right. I thought the chat was supposed to begin at 11:00 GMT since I always translate GMT time to Israel time (+2:00). MWIA, my apologies.
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                  • #10
                    WHY can't the Earth just be flat. It would make everything so much easier!
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Hagbart
                      WHY can't the Earth just be flat. It would make everything so much easier!
                      /me snaps his fingers

                      The Earth is now flat. Problem solved.

                      I am overjoyed to see it is not at all my fault and I was on time and was not wrong. EST is NOT the time in the EST zone, much as GMT is not the time in Greenwich, but it is a standard that does not change for daylight saving. I can't keep track of when you guys all change your times, and I don't expect anyone there to keep track of our daylight saving. Do I need to point this out in future?
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                      • #12
                        Perhaps it would be easier next time to just post only the time you want in GMT and leave it up to us to check what it would be for our local time zone by going to a website such as http://greenwichmeantime.com/

                        I guess I should have double checked, but I was going by what you had typed as 0400 EST, when the correct correlation would have been 0500 EST time instead. But yeah, I think to avoid this proble, it would be better to just type CHAT AT 2200 GMT!!!

                        Of course I guess it is convienent if you do convert it for us, but then we have this issue of daylight savings vs. standard time. So I think it would be best just to go to http://greenwichmeantime.com/ and figure it out. That website has correct times for ALL over the world, so one can easily figure out the difference for their local area!
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                        • #13
                          In fact, now that I look, a better place on that site is:
                          Your world on time
                          http://greenwichmeantime.com/gmt-converter2.htm
                          Plan and schedule events and meetings, share time.


                          One can click on any country in the world to find out it's correct time zones for GMT, including daylight savings time and standard time. Clicking on New Zealand gives a nice table that says it is GMT + 12 in standard time but GMT + 13 in daylight savings time (and it even tells the dates for daylight savings time!!)

                          Perfect!
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                          • #14
                            I hate daylight savings time.

                            No fault to MWIA, but getting up at 5 am local would have been much easier then getting up at 4 am.

                            I say we follow what Aurthor Clark suggested in one of his novels = switch the earth in 4 time zones, 6 hours different from each other. Makes scheduling much easier..... particularly when I am trying to set up a conference call with people in Moscow, Edinbourgh (sp is bad.... sorry fellow scottsmen), NYC, Detroit (me), LA and Tokyo.

                            Also, while I am at it, if people will just go back to using inches, feet and miles it would realy make my life easier........

                            Next time, lets just stick with GMT and let everybody else figure out their local time.

                            grumble,..... mumble, ...d@mn daylight savings time.......
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by GodKing
                              Also, while I am at it, if people will just go back to using inches, feet and miles it would realy make my life easier........
                              I am so glad you put that " " there..!
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