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  • Formalizing the regions, along with the role of the "deputies".

    OK. I have been promising this for a while, and now that it appears the system is up and running fairly smooth, I am now posting my ideas regarding the regions, how they are run, etc.

    I am setting this up as a poll, with 4 options:

    Yes, I like the way you describe it, and agree it should be a part of our code of laws.

    No, this sucks. I think regions are a bad idea. Don't need them, don't want them.

    Not this way. I see how regions can be usefull, but this needs to be worked out better. I will post my ideas below.

    Abstain. I don't care about this issue. All I wanted is to see how the poll is turning out. By clicking here, I agree that my vote will not count for or against this.


    The yes option needs to have more votes than the two no options combined to pass. It will then be considered a part of the code of laws.

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    So, just what are we voting on?

    Regions: A region is an area, roughly based upon the geography of the land, and composed of several cities. The City Planner assignes various cities into regions. Once assigned, a city can only change regions by a vote of the people. (A good example of this is the city Timeline. By looking at the maps, it would probably best be in region 1, Mingapulco, and not region 2, Pina Colada. When I assigned the regions innitially, I was more conserned with balance with current production, figuring the war with france would now be over and that we would have several American cities being added to Pina Colada. Oops.)

    Regional Administrators: A person who volunteers to help the City Planner may be assigned by the City Planner to Administer a region. One such person may, at the will of the City Planner, act as an official deputy in case the City Planner is not available and a decision needs to be made. The City Planner must state publicly that So and So is my deputy. The volunteer can name his position (i.e. Viceroy of Pina Colada Provence). If this is a new regoin, the person can solicit from the public for a name of the region. These people help the City Planner in organizing the cities within their area, particularly in regards to production and optimal worker placement. However, their most important duty is to help in role playing. The City Planner may have as many or as few assistants as volunteer and as the City Planner may like. If the number of volunteers exceeds the number of regions, the City Planner may assign people to act as "Mayor" or other such appropriate title to a specific city. The City Planner may elect to not use any assistants at his discretion.

    The City Planner is the elected position, and as such has full and final authority over any and all orders which fall under his purview. Therefor, any assistants should PM, Email, or other appropriate means, communicate their ideas and requests to the City Planner with sufficient time for the City Planner to compile them into a single post for the President/Vice President to use when playing the game (this assumes the President or VP have objections to multiple posts, which may or may not have been reviewed by the elected official). Volunteers should realize that as the City Planner has the responsibility, he may change and overide any such requests made to him. Also, the City Planner reserves the rights to remove a volunteer from this semi-official position at whim. The volunteer has whatever authority the City Planner deligates into the position. I would advise future City Planners to have all region orders go thru them prior to posting as they are the one responsible.
    26
    Yes, I like
    80.77%
    21
    No, this sucks
    3.85%
    1
    No, not this way
    3.85%
    1
    Abstain, just want to see the results w/o voting
    11.54%
    3

    The poll is expired.

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    Oops, forgot to note, expires in 5 days.
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    • #3
      It's a good plan .

      I've no objections to what's up there. It's pretty close to what we have now, which works, and also gives lots of power to the City Planner to set things up the way he/she wants.

      -- adaMada
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      • #4
        Good plan, GodKing. I support it. Could you post a list of the regions with the cities of each one? I need this info to prepare the correspondent maps.
        Thanks in advance.
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        • #5
          Aro, check the Term Three Government/Directory Thread, it's got lists of cities in each region in the City Planning section.



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          • #6
            City Planner: GodKing Deputies: OPD , jdjdjd , Rendelnep

            OPD will be managing region #1, which will include the following cities:
            Name the Region (suggestions)
            Termina
            Apolyton
            Tassagrad
            BHQ
            chartres (occupied)
            orleans (occupied)
            rheims (occupied)
            When did the French take back Port Rouge (Orleans)?

            Oh, and I'd be available as a Regional Deputy for Mingapulco if OPD wins the presidency, or the Island, or New Persia......................

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            • #7
              sounds good. but one question, i dunno if you ansered it or not. how or the depurty's selected, i am asuming by normal election.

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              • #8
                Trickey: Deputies are, by nature, appointed. The point of this ammendment is to give hte CP the maximum flexability in how he runs his office.

                GF: I think that list may be a bit out of date re: the occupied entries.

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                • #9
                  By the way, I suggest that instead of regions, we adopt the term: Provinces.

                  The governor of a province will be 'The Provincial Governor'.

                  If the government wills it, I too shall put forward my name for a post somewhere as a Provincial Governor.
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                  • #10
                    . Formalizing it is a waste of time and creates unnecesary rigidity.

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                    • #11
                      The List is a little out of date. Sorry. I will talk to unortho when he returns to see if he intends on keeping up the directory. If so, I will see if we can update it.

                      The deputies are appointed. If they were elected, two people with radical differences could be causing friction instead of working together.

                      I was leaving the term region in as it is fairly generic. If, for example, the person wanted to be called "Governor", it might be the "state of mingapulco", however, if someone wanted to use "Prince" then it would be the "Principality of Mingapulco". However it works out, I wanted it to be generic for roll play so that it isn't terribly rigid and formalized.

                      civman2k; I think the people needed to decide if they want the regions, provinces, states, whatever. I tried to make this as flexible as possible, while still allowing the elected official to have responsibility and the power to do the job. However, if the people feel that they do not like this, then let it go away. That is why I am trying to formalize this. When you read it, it states that the CP can either use none, some or all of it at their discretion. How is that being too rigid?
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                      • #12
                        Godking, the regions are one of the best ideas I've ever seen in the C3DG, I love it. And I think as Apolyton grows it will take on more and more important... I'm all for it, especially since you outlined that all deputies report to the City Planner (thus avoiding too much decentralization!)... it's awesome. Besides, one of my favorite parts of the statistics is the regional comparisons!
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                        Ministre d'Économie: Session IV, V
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by adaMada
                          Aro, check the Term Three Government/Directory Thread, it's got lists of cities in each region in the City Planning section.



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                          Thanks, adaMada.
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                          • #14
                            APOLYTONIA GLORIANUS

                            Here's my Proposal...

                            1) That the regions that are to be divided as 'provinces' be managed by a 'provincial governor', who makes the lesser decisions, but answers to the President and government leaders.

                            2) That the provincial governor must not simply seek to enhance culture in the region through his constructions and improvements, but also attempt to make the region more profitable to the nation as a whole.

                            3) That the provincial governor must raise a standing army of at least four units to protect the borders of his province from invasion, or to lend assistance in case of further imperial expansion.

                            4) That the provinces be assigned titles thus:
                            Apolytonian heartland = The Province of Magnus Apolytonia
                            Apolytonian jungle area = The Province of Apolytonia Minor
                            American colonies = The Province of Apolytonia Americanus
                            French colonies = The Province of Gaul
                            Persian colonies = The Province of Asia
                            Northern areas (near Germany) = The Province of Germania

                            Any more proposals to be added on? Is this satisfactory?
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                            Pleasures flowing,
                            Fortune smiles and so should you.

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                            • #15
                              History Guy, I really really really like your proposal b/c it's very aesthetically pleasing (role playing wise) and yet functional as well. But since it's already been decided what most of the region names are I think everyone would be unwilling to rename and rearrange the provinces now...
                              Minister of the Economy: Term IV, V
                              Ministre d'Économie: Session IV, V
                              Just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean there aren't people following me!
                              Même si je suis paranoïde, ça n'exige pas qu'il n'y a pas de gens qui me suivent!

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