Trading Session 5

[Duddha]

Dudeville
Turn #: 005
Holdings: 010 Termina NE (mined grass rd)
Stockpile: 0 food, 0 shields, 0 commerce
Cash: $440
Debt: -$920(10% interest, 14 turns remaining on grace period)
Buildings: None

Administered by: Duddha

Production this turn: 2 food, 1 shield, 1 commerce
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Proposed Deals:

Sell 2 of 2 food @ $55 each
Sell 1 of 1 commerce @ $55 each
Sell 1 of 1 shields @ $60 each

pay $440 off debt

New D/S:
Food: 34/51+2 = $64
Sheild: 22/31+1 = $68
Commerce: 28/42+1 = $65

I will soon own my land!

[GhengisFarbâ„¢]

House Ghengis Land Holdings in the Province of Mingapulco
Turn #: 003 
[b]Holdings:[/b] 
[u]House Ghengis:[/u]
"Apolyfield" - 004 Apolyton NW (grass), 
"Jungleister" - 015 Termina NE3 (jungle), 
"Ghengis Mountain" - 022 Tassagrad NW (jungle)

[u]Leased from adaMada:[/u]
005 Apolyton NW10 (mined grass rd)

[u]Leased from civman2000:[/u]
008 Apolyton NE1 (mined grass rd)

[u]Leased from UnOrthOdOx:[/u]
013 Termina NE1 (jungle), 
014 Termina NE2 (jungle)

[u]Leased from jdd2007:[/u]
023 Tassagrad NW10 (jungle) 
024 Tassagrad NW11 (jungle) 
025 Tassagrad NW12 (jungle) 

[b]Stockpile(s): [/b]
GhengisFarb Estate: 0 food, 6 shields, 0 commerce
adaMada Estate:.....0 food, 2 shields, 0 commerce
civman2000 Estate:.0 food, 0 shields, 0 commerce
jdd2007 Estate:.....0 food, 0 shields, 0 commerce
[b]TOTAL STOCKPILE..0 food, 8 shields, 0 commerce[/b]

Cash: $166 
Debt: -$1000 (10% interest, 11 turns remaining on grace period) 
Buildings:  STOREHOUSE ON ESTATE OF GHENGISFARB
                  TAVERN IN TASSAGRAD
                  TAVERN IN APOLYTON
                  TAVERN IN BHQ


[b]Administered by: GhengisFarb, First Ghengis of House Ghengis[/b] 

[u]Last turn's completed trades:[/u] 
GhengisFarb sold 14 food at $80 
GhengisFarb sold 15 commerce at $60 
GhengisFarb hired 1 labor(Apolyton) @ $51 
GhengisFarb hired 1 labor(BHQ) @ $26 
GhengisFarb bought 2 French vassals $5 
GhengisFarb paid adaMada $110 rent 
GhengisFarb paid civman2000 $175 rent 
GhengisFarb paid jdd2007 $150 rent 
GhengisFarb paid Kloreep $200 rent 
GhengisFarb paid UnOrthOdOx $100 rent 
..........Total Income for Turn =$1198 (Cash=$1209, Debt=$1000 
FINISHED TAVERN IN APOLYTON 
FINISHED TAVERN IN BHQ 
FINISHED TAVERN IN TASSAGRAD 
FINISHED STOREHOUSE ON ESTATE OF GHENGISFARB 

..........net Cash Flow =$1198


Production this turn: 12 food, 3 shields, 6 commerce
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Proposed Deals: 


Sell 12 food @ a minimum price of $44  (D:S 34/65(43+22)=$52)  
Pay adaMada $110 rent 
Pay civman2000 $175 rent 
Pay paid jdd2007 $150 rent 
Pay paid UnOrthOdOx $100 rent

CURRENT D:S
Food (D:S 34/65(43+22)=$52)
Shields (D:S 22/30(24+6)=$73)
Commerce (D:S 48/43(35+8)=$55)

[GhengisFarbâ„¢]

Originally posted by notyoueither
Hope I got this right, I always follow everyone else's lead.

GF, could you confirm for me the end of my interest grace period? I bought prior to turn 1.

You have 10 turns AFTER this turn.

You do realize you only built 2/3 of the tavern last turn? You still have one labor/shield left on it.

BTW, I prefer this min/max system. It will take less attention and keep more people IMO.

One other thing. If people abandon the game at this early stage, should their lands go back to the govt?

One exception should be that Cap should get something when he comes back, assuming this goes on.

I figure we can have a quick discussion thread to resolve these matters after this session. I also came up with a system where we can raise troops and attack each other in medieval fashion if anyone's interested in it.

[Epistax]

Episten Plantation
Turn #: 005
Holdings: bleh

Stockpile: 0 food, 0 shields, 0 commerce
Cash: $don't remember
Debt: -$1700
Buildings: Tavern (2/3) @ Termina

Administered by: Epi

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Production this turn: 2 food, 0 shields, 1 commerce
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Proposed Deals:

Sell 2 food @ $1 minimum
Sell 1 Commerce @ $1 minimum
Buy 1 Labor @ Termina $80 maximum
Buy 1 Shield $80 maximum

New D/S:
Food 34/65+2 = $51
Shields 22+1/30 = $77
Commerce 48/43 = wtf? How is this 55? Well it's 48/44 now.

[GhengisFarbâ„¢]

MARKET CLOSED

[GhengisFarbâ„¢]

NOTE:ANYTHING NOT SOLD, INCLUDING FOOD IS STOCKPILED UNTIL NEXT TURN. I DIDN"T CALCULATE THE FINAL D/S LIKE FRANCES WANTED. HIS SYSTEM WOULD HAVE TAKEN ME SEVERAL HOURS LONGER THAN WHAT IT CURRENTLY TOOK AND IT TOOK ME OVER SIX HOURS TO COMPUTE THE NUMBERS FOR THE INITIAL MARKET ASSESSMENT.

ALSO, I DIDN"T COMPUTE ANY DEBT PAYMENTS.

FINAL TRANSACTION LIST FOR SESSION 5
Here's what I came up with for completed transactions:

Labor Market
Available Labor: 17
D:S 2/17 = $12


FINAL TRANSACTIONS:
Kloreep hired 1 labor @ $12
Epistax hired 1 labor @ $12


FOOD MARKET
Food demand: 34
Food supplied: 43
Food sold: 24

D:S = 34/(43+24)67 = 50.75%
End price = $50
FINAL TRANSACTIONS:
Duddha sold 2 food at $55 Market price below his minimum price
Epistax sold 2 food at $50
GhengisFarb sold 12 food at $50
Jonny sold 1 food at $50
Kloreep sold 2 food @ 50
Nimitz sold 2 food at $50
notyoueither sold 2 food at $50
Spiffor sold 1 food at $50




SHIELD MARKET
Shields demand: 22
Shields supplied: 23
Shields sold: 6 Shields bought: 3

D:S = 23(22+1)/32(24 +8) = 71.88%
End price = $71-72
FINAL TRANSACTIONS:
Duddha sold 2 shields at $71
Epistax bought 1 shield at $72
Jonny sold 2 shields at $71
Kloreep sold 2 shields at $71
Spiffor sold 2 shields at $71


COMMERCE MARKET
Commerce demand: 28
Commerce supplied: 35
Commerce sold: 9

D:S = 28/(35 + 9)44 = 31.8%
End price = $31
FINAL TRANSACTIONS:
Duddha sold 1 commerce at $63
Epistax sold 1 commerce at $63
Jonny sold 1 commerce at $63
Kloreep sold 3 commerce at $63
Nimitz sold 2 commerce at $63
notyoueither sold 2 commerce at $63
Spiffor sold 1 commerce at $63


Total Incomes
adaMada received $110 rent from GhengisFarb
..........Total Income for Turn =$110 (Cash $330, Debt $1200)

civman2000 received $175 rent from GhengisFarb
civman2000 paid $175 of debt
..........Total Income for Turn =$0 (Cash $0, Debt $300)

Darkness' Edge
..........Total Income for Turn =$0 (Cash $0, Debt $400)

Duddha sold 2 food at $55 Market price below his minimum price
Duddha sold 2 shields at $71
Duddha sold 1 commerce at $63
..........Total Income for Turn =$205 (Cash $645, Debt $920)

Epistax hired 1 labor @ $12
Epistax sold 2 food at $50
Epistax bought 1 shield at $72
Epistax sold 1 commerce at $63
..........Total Income for Turn = $79 (Cash $395, Debt $750)

Frances
..........Total Income for Turn =$0 (Cash $405, Debt $1100)

GhengisFarb sold 12 food at $50
(6 (2x3 taverns) @ 50% bonus = +$150)
GhengisFarb paid adaMada $110 rent
GhengisFarb paid civman2000 $175 rent
GhengisFarb paid jdd2007 $150 rent
GhengisFarb paid UnOrthOdOx $100 rent
..........Total Income for Turn =$215 (Cash=$1424, Debt=$1000)
TAVERN IN APOLYTON
TAVERN IN BHQ
TAVERN IN TASSAGRAD
STOREHOUSE ON ESTATE OF GHENGISFARB

jdd2007 received $150 rent from GhengisFarb
..........Total Income for Turn = $150 (Cash $815, Debt $750)

Jonny sold 1 food at $50
Jonny sold 2 shields at $71
Jonny sold 1 commerce at $63
..........Total Income for Turn = $255 (Cash $530, Debt $780)

Kloreep hired 1 labor @ $12
Kloreep sold 2 food @ 50
Kloreep sold 2 shields at $71
Kloreep sold 1 commerce at $63
..........Total Income for Turn =$293 (Cash $955, Debt $1400)

Kramerman
..........Total Income for Turn =$0 (Cash $545, Debt $1370)

Nimitz sold 2 food at $50
Nimitz sold 2 commerce at $63
..........Total Income for Turn =$226 (Cash $486, Debt $1500)

notyoueither sold 2 food at $50
notyoueither sold 2 commerce at $63
..........Total Income for Turn =$226 (Cash $525, Debt $1000)
2 of 3 completed on a Tavern In Apolyton


rendelnep
..........Total Income for Turn =$0 (Cash $0, Debt $1020)

Shiek
..........Total Income for Turn =$0 (Cash $152, Debt $400)

skywalker
..........Total Income for Turn =$0 (Cash $405, Debt $1000)

Spiffor sold 1 food at $50
Spiffor sold 2 shields at $71
Spiffor sold 1 commerce at $63
..........Total Income for Turn =$255 (Cash $240, Debt $775)

UnOrthOdOx received $100 rent from GhengisFarb
..........Total Income for Turn =$100 (Cash $305, Debt $225)

Anyone notice any mistakes/corrections?



CURRENT STOCKPILES
Discontinued.....(Mind you I still keep track so don't think about fudging your inventory.)


CONSTRUCTION STATUS
Epistax has finished a Tavern in Termina?
Franses has built 4 of ? on a building in a city/estate.
GhengisFarb finished a Tavern in Apolyton
GhengisFarb finished a Tavern in BHQ
GhengisFarb finished a Tavern in Tassagrad
GhengisFarb finished a Storehouse on his Estate
Kloreep has built 1 of 2 on Storehouse on his Estate
notyoueither has built 2 of 3 on a Tavern in Apolyton

[Jonny]

Genghis, concerning the final Commerce D/S:

28/44 = 63.63%

According to the first post in the thread, everything uses a $100 base rate.

[GhengisFarbâ„¢]

Originally posted by Jonny
Genghis, concerning the final Commerce D/S:

28/44 = 63.63%

According to the first post in the thread, everything uses a $100 base rate.

You're right my spreadsheet was still set at a $50 base rate for commerce.

[Kloreep]

Correction: I only sold 1 commerce (all I had). That means my income for the turn was $293, and I only have $955 cash.

Also, this is the first time I've successfully converted a shield, so I only have 1 shield of the warehouse built.

Thanks for running this. It's a lot of fun now that I'm near being able to pay my debt off.

[GhengisFarbâ„¢]

Originally posted by Kloreep
Correction: I only sold 1 commerce (all I had). That means my income for the turn was $293, and I only have $955 cash.

Also, this is the first time I've successfully converted a shield, so I only have 1 shield of the warehouse built.

Thanks for running this. It's a lot of fun now that I'm near being able to pay my debt off.

Thanks, corrected it.