First uses of paid labor (money-rushing)

[Panag]

Originally posted by skywalker


Wow! What an original idea!

Panag, DUH!

hi ,

hey Sky , it was meant that they are more intresting then walls , ....

and it was more like the casting of a vote in a poll , ...

say , imagine every time people started to scream when you came up with silly ideas , .....



have a nice day

[GhengisFarb™]

Walls
50% bonus until city reaches size 6
ONLY works in one tile and one city

Barracks
Gives unit extra hitpoint
Allows injured unit to COMPLETELY heal before next turn
NEVER expires.
Improved units can move to mountains where they get a 100% bonus (double that of walls)

I think barracks are the better option to defend the areas mentioned. Fortify units in the mountains and extend our viewing area.

[Panag]

Originally posted by GhengisFarb
Walls
50% bonus until city reaches size 6
ONLY works in one tile and one city

Barracks
Gives unit extra hitpoint
Allows injured unit to COMPLETELY heal before next turn
NEVER expires.
Improved units can move to mountains where they get a 100% bonus (double that of walls)

I think barracks are the better option to defend the areas mentioned. Fortify units in the mountains and extend our viewing area.

hi ,

at last , some-one else who can see it , ...

we could use the a barracks in each city , so that we get vet units , .... Uber was asking for this since a long time , .....

and if we have barracks we should get to build something with culture , ....

have a nice day

[Shiber]

Ghengis: you convinced me. No rushing walls then.

[BigFurryMonster]

Please don't build barracks everywhere! It'll be time-consuming, and they cost 1 gpt each.

Instead, build veteran units in a limited number of cities.

Do not invest in Cherbourg. It'll never grow past 1 non-corrupted shield for a while. Instead, use it as 1 gpt income and later give it away to a civ we want to be friends with.

[adaMada]

I agree with everything in the first post, with two two thoughts:

Walls (or barracks, depending on which is thought to be more useful) should only be rushed if the SMC believes that there is a reasonable chance we'll loose the city without them.

and

We do not do all of this at once, keeping at least 100+ gold in our coffers; Should we be prepared to sue for peace earlier than we might predict, we may need some money for any deals, and it's always smart to keep a little in reserve anyway.

-- adaMada

[Kuciwalker]

AdaMada - A Pikeman or Spearman would provide more defence and cost less.

[adaMada]

Skywalker,

Sorry, I didn't mean to imply that I only wanted walls or barracks. Basically, if we're about to loose a city we should rush any defensive item -- whatever the SMC/citizens feel will help the most. (I won't pretend that I'm any good at Military Planning, and will as such leave it to others to figure out).

-- adaMada

[Kuciwalker]

My point is that we never need to rush Walls, because we can rush better things for less.

[Shiber]

Rushing a barracks to save a city is a bad idea. We should place our barracks in strategic locations, not necessarily in cities that are under threat. Also, we can't move the barracks later and they'll cost us 1 gpt all throughout the game unless we sell them.
On the other hand, a pikeman (or whatever garrison unit we can build, depending on our progress through the technology tree) is a much better choice: it can move around to where it's needed. It does cost 1 gpt too (unless we're within our free support limit if we're under Monarchy or Communism) but it often provides better defense than a barracks and at a cheaper price.
Btw, if we spot an attacker ahead (we should really put some warriors on those mountains to serve as scouts and early warning stations) we can produce a veteran pikeman in a city that has barracks and then transport him quickly using our roads system to the threatened city.

[Panag]

Originally posted by Shiber
Rushing a barracks to save a city is a bad idea. We should place our barracks in strategic locations, not necessarily in cities that are under threat. Also, we can't move the barracks later and they'll cost us 1 gpt all throughout the game unless we sell them.
On the other hand, a pikeman (or whatever garrison unit we can build, depending on our progress through the technology tree) is a much better choice: it can move around to where it's needed. It does cost 1 gpt too (unless we're within our free support limit if we're under Monarchy or Communism) but it often provides better defense than a barracks and at a cheaper price.
Btw, if we spot an attacker ahead (we should really put some warriors on those mountains to serve as scouts and early warning stations) we can produce a veteran pikeman in a city that has barracks and then transport him quickly using our roads system to the threatened city.

hi ,

, that famous 1 gpt is worth it every bit , ...
not only to build a unit , but also to heal them , ....

what we should do is to make sure that all our cities grow , so work the terrain , and we need a mobile force , ... in real live its the same , be mobile , or die like a sitting duck , ... we should have a couple places that build ones a building , then a unit , a building , a unit , and so on , ....

the roads are indeed important , ... not only for money , but also to move the troops , ...

say , good post Shiber

have a nice day

[adaMada]

Ok. So, if we need to rush emergency defense, it should be in the form of units. That makes sense.

Again, I really try to avoid making too many comments about micromanagement of tactics, since I'm just not good at military tactics on a small-scale .

As for Barracks, I agree that they should be in strategic locations, but I also think they should be built on boarder towns that are under attack a lot. Not in emergency situations, but just as reinforcements -- that way, we'll have to replenish their garrisons much less frequently.

-- adaMada

EDIT: The double-name bug strikes again!

[OPD]

I don't think rushing defensive units is that good an idea as they will only be regulars.

Instead I agree with Shiber about the idea of haveing a few cities with barracks which produce all of our defensive units. Although ATM this would mean our 4 core cities which would be better building other things.

[Panag]

Originally posted by OPD
I don't think rushing defensive units is that good an idea as they will only be regulars.

Instead I agree with Shiber about the idea of haveing a few cities with barracks which produce all of our defensive units. Although ATM this would mean our 4 core cities which would be better building other things.

hi ,

that is why each city should build barracks , then they should build a unit , then a building , then a unit , then a building , ...

in case of war we or problems around the corner , we can start to build units everywhere , ...

what we need before we do that is 10 workers more , and start to grow , ...

have a nice day

[OPD]

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