Suggestions to make turnchats viable

[adaMada]

Only one thing...

UnOrthO was talking about a new system of organization for orders in the other thread (http://www.apolyton.net/forums/showt...73#post1260027 and following discussion). I think his idea, coupled with yours about the number, and perhaps coupled with the following discussion (including ideas about a really snazzy way of doing html tables to make some orders clearer) would make the best final result.

Also, I think that each deupty minister's power should be stated by the minister before the chat. For instance, if the minister is out of town and the deputy is acting as the minister, then he (or she ) should have the minister's full power. On the other hand, if the Deputy is simply acting as a conduit for the Minister's orders, then he or she should only be able to order exactly what the minister's orders show.

Just a few thoughts...

-- adaMada

[disorganizer]

What if you dont have to post all your moves? You could instead post a save at the forum after each end of a turn. This would enable all people to download it and see what you do without maybe missed instructions and things.

Also, i think the chat must be stopped if instructions run out. All instructions have to be layed out and planned far beforehand, so only unforseeable things will need intervention in the chat.

[Ninot]

lol, always the same problems with these chats

glad to see fixes are trying to be made tho.

Just remember, the first chat is always the hardest

[OPD]

Originally posted by Ninot
Just remember, the first chat is always the hardest

Especially as it was pretty much all new ministers and pres aswell.

[wervdon]

It seems to me any turnchat/thread with alot of tech/trade whoring in it ends up being a slow one. I haven't been to one yet, so I dont know from experience, but looking at the reports combined with when there are complaints it seems that way.

If so the best solution might be to just allow "mini-turns" between real turns where nothing but diplomacy can be done before the actual turn chat so the slow stuff is out of the way.

[UnOrthOdOx]

Originally posted by adaMada
Only one thing...

UnOrthO was talking about a new system of organization for orders in the other thread (http://www.apolyton.net/forums/showt...73#post1260027 and following discussion). I think his idea, coupled with yours about the number, and perhaps coupled with the following discussion (including ideas about a really snazzy way of doing html tables to make some orders clearer) would make the best final result.

Also, I think that each deupty minister's power should be stated by the minister before the chat. For instance, if the minister is out of town and the deputy is acting as the minister, then he (or she ) should have the minister's full power. On the other hand, if the Deputy is simply acting as a conduit for the Minister's orders, then he or she should only be able to order exactly what the minister's orders show.

Just a few thoughts...

-- adaMada

I determined the tables would get too huge for all orders and will only work with some positions.

I have a sample up here. I could go through and number them easily enough, so MrWIA or myself would just have to report:
Moving A:1
Moving A:2
Moving B:1
Moving B:2
Conducting trade phase 1: Results
Trade Phase 2: Results
End of turn, anything else from the people?

Next turn.
Moving A:1
etc...

This would require those attending the chats and wanting to play along to have a copy of the orders on hand, but should speed things right along, and it makes a checklist for whomever is playing.

[wervdon]

Well this is a different idea from anything which ive heard and Im not sure how viable it is, but I thought id throw it out there anyways.

We could abandon the idea of only the president plays the game and only during turn threads/turn chats altogether and let each minister play his part of the turn on a set schedule then post the save for the next minister along with a sumary of his part of the turn and/or any requests for other ministers.

For example, on Sunday the city planner gives orders to all the cities and posts the save. Then on Monday the SMC moves all military units or waits with units he has no specific plans for then posts his save. On Tuesday the Foreign minister handles all diplomacy and posts the save for the next minister. On Wednesday the public works minister moves all workers or waits with ones without any specific purpose, etc. Then finally the president gets the save and finishes the moves for any units not having taken their move yet as he sees fit and ends the turn (and if needed caries out our science advisors orders). Then the next turn can begin for the city planner, etc.

Of course the above is just an example and I might of left some of our ministers out, and we'd probally want to do more than one turn in 5 days like that or such, so it might just go in succession as fast as the ministers get around to their duties. (ie, the SMC knows he always goes after the city planner so if he sees the city planners report with his save, he can go, then the foreign minister knows he can go etc)

It would definately require more organization than we have now to make that work with any sustainable rythm, but like I said Im just trying to propose something that hasn't been thrown out there yet.

[disorganizer]

Why dont you then do it on the same day in chat?
Like all ministers pass the save on among each other via the forum. The last one is the pres and he really starts the chat then.
The daily approach will need the citizens interested in the chat itself to be in there every single day ;-)
Sounds like a succession game :-P