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**OPD** · August 31, 2002, 20:50

Site 2 looks good Maybe 1 tile NE would be better?

I don't have the new save yet but if Port rouge is still a 2 then a settler could be built there and be ready in about 12 turns to build on site 2.

Then we'd wouldn't need a ROP with France and would have a better cahnce of flipping those French cities.

Also I can't belive we still haven't got a city on site 4 yet.

**Epistax** · August 31, 2002, 21:03

I really like all those spots. 1 and 2 with temples would pressure that french city if it still exists. I forgot if it does. Chartres does anyway. 3 Would help flip that greek city. and 4.. well there sure is a gap there!

**DAVOUT** · September 1, 2002, 05:13

If we dont grant RoP, the site n° 4 should have the lowest priority : it can only be accessed from Chartres, particularly if we follow OPD advice to move site n° 2 one tile NE.

**caesarqbear** · September 1, 2002, 05:27

i vote for 3 first

**DAVOUT** · September 1, 2002, 05:35

Originally posted by caesarqbear
i vote for 3 first

I think so. This site n° 3 is the closest of Greeks cities.

**Shiber** · September 1, 2002, 05:56

Just to get one fact straight, we don't need a RoP to trade through the road to Chartres. When you're at peace with a nation goods can pass through their territory.
I'm absolutely sure this is true. In fact I loaded a game I had saved somewhere else and disbanded a lot of cities to see if I can still pass goods through enemy territory and it turned out that I can.

**Panag** · September 1, 2002, 07:27

Originally posted by Shiber
Just to get one fact straight, we don't need a RoP to trade through the road to Chartres. When you're at peace with a nation goods can pass through their territory.
I'm absolutely sure this is true. In fact I loaded a game I had saved somewhere else and disbanded a lot of cities to see if I can still pass goods through enemy territory and it turned out that I can.

hi ,

indeed you can , however there are some problems when at war , ....

Firaxis say this shall be more clear in PTW , .....

, there is room for at least 2 cities , .....

and a couple more around , ......

have a nice day

**Shiber** · September 1, 2002, 07:37

With a bit of luck sites 2, 4 and Port Rouge can culture-flip Chartres.

**Panag** · September 1, 2002, 07:57

Originally posted by Shiber
With a bit of luck sites 2, 4 and Port Rouge can culture-flip Chartres.

hi ,

, a temple and cathedral could do it , ....

, why dont we take it in a couple turns , ....

have a nice day

**Shiber** · September 1, 2002, 11:07

Culture-flipping takes more than just a couple of turns.

**Panag** · September 1, 2002, 13:51

Originally posted by Shiber
Culture-flipping takes more than just a couple of turns.

hi ,

the point was not in one or two turns , or to let it flip , ....

get cavalry , build our nation , and then , another war , ...
"in a couple turns" - meaning in the near future , ....

have a nice day

**Shiber** · September 1, 2002, 14:48

/me wonders what Will 5001 thinks of this.
Will?

**OPD** · September 1, 2002, 15:54

Does anyone have any objections to building a city 1 tile NE of site 2.

If not then I will speak to Will and start building a stlr.

although we can trade through other nations we shouldn't have to and it isalways best to have our mainland cities conected by culture.

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