Area 25

[Apocalypse]

Tech trades wouldn't be discussed here too often. I may just go to other organizations' thread anyway. I may also just consult with other ministers directly. The area will mainly just be used to hammer out the best research plan.

[MrWhereItsAt]

/me waves hands frantically in the air much like Test did some weeks ago escaping the pro-Americans

Hello? Is this thread for discussion, as I hoped to start with my above post, or for spam?

You wouldn't want me to conduct a mass debate all by myself.

[Apocalypse]

Originally posted by MrWhereItsAt
* MrWhereItsAt waves hands frantically in the air much like Test did some weeks ago escaping the pro-Americans

Hello? Is this thread for discussion, as I hoped to start with my above post, or for spam?

You wouldn't want me to conduct a mass debate all by myself.

We have the other Area 25 thread for that discussion right now. I wrote a list of 17 questions I'd like answered yet only one of them is answered so far.

[MrWhereItsAt]

Other thread? Haven't heard of that or seen it anywhere. I'll go look for it.

[Apocalypse]

You posted in it

[Vlad Antlerkov]

I'd like to join.

Remember, you never saw me. In fact, neither of us really exist (we're both DLs ).

[jdd2007]

*Cloaked man does a flip and pulls out two long, glowing curved objects*

we neeeeed chivalry or the dark side of the banana will triumph

[GoodFella]

Tell the truth to me, there really was a top secret Banana autopsy outside of the Geofront city limits, wasn't there! You can't hide the truth forever!

[Apocalypse]

No comment.

Anyone else notice how close the Bavarian Illuminati is to Area 25 yet? That was totally unintentional.

[Togas]

Tech Trade Report

Gentlemen,

I have spent an extensive time attempting to work out trades with our neighbors for technology. The following is the situation as of 210 BC.

We are 17 turns away from Feudalism, but 40 turns away from anything else (which is the max).

The cost to buy Feudalism or Monotheism (class 1) is our World Map, all our money (371) and 14gpt.

The cost to buy Monarchy or Republic (class 2) is our World Map, all our money (371) and 6 gpt.

We can, alternately, get into another war and see the costs shift as such:
Ally with Greece against England:
Class 1 = 235
Class 2 = 72

Ally with England against Greece
Class 1 = Free. Throw in a Class 2 and total cost = 320, 5 gpt, WM.

No alliance with Aztecs against Germany is possible to discuss at this time as we have no embassy in Tenochtitian.

France will give us peace and a Class 1 tech for 335. NOTE: France does not have a Class 2 tech.

Conclusion
Buying from France is not a bad option considering that all the others nations are extorting us. The price may even go down as we press our advantage further. I would prefer to see us aquire a government tech (Class 2), but it seems the only possible means to that end would be to sign a military alliance with Greece against England and then pay them 72 for a government.

We need to employ actual research facilities NOW as tech is now virtually impossible to buy. Stealing tech would cost us just over 1000. The only other method we have of getting tech is pressing forward with wars but we will soon be at a loss to enemies who field knights if we cannot quickly climb the ladder to Chivalry.

We need to decide if declaring another war (England?) is worth the decrease in price for a government. Germany and Persia may offer us a discount on a government as well at the peace table but we first have to do some damage and then get them to talk. Currently they aren't talking.

I have pressed the City Planner to build a harbor. By the time it is ready we should have more resources linked. We need to secure the wines of Marseilles, capture the dyes of Munich, and capture the incense of Chicago. We can trade these luxuries for tech to any other nation with a harbor.

--Togas

[Aro]

Re: Tech Trade Report

Originally posted by Togas


We need to employ actual research facilities NOW as tech is now virtually impossible to buy.

I don't know how we can manage this, but it's a fact: without techs, we have no future.

Originally posted by Togas
I have pressed the City Planner to build a harbor. By the time it is ready we should have more resources linked. We need to secure the wines of Marseilles, capture the dyes of Munich, and capture the incense of Chicago. We can trade these luxuries for tech to any other nation with a harbor.

Btw, the Romans have a harbor in Pompeii, and we are building one in Tassagrad.

[Togas]

Re: Re: Tech Trade Report

Originally posted by Aro
Btw, the Romans have a harbor in Pompeii, and we are building one in Tassagrad.

I asked him to build it last week and was glad to see construction begin this past turnthread.

But I'm curious ... how do you know that the Romans have a harbor in Pompeii?

--Togas

[Shiber]

There's a little harbor icon next to Pompeii.
Cities with harbors or airports get an icon immediately after its built (meaning you don't have to update your map to know that there's a harbor in Pompeii).

[Aro]

And this means trade...

[Togas]

After Shiber mentioned it I went back and checked the entire map and was dissapointed to see that the Romans are the only ones who have built a harbor (so far). They haven't yet linked it to the capitol, but let's hope they do soon.

Our harbor will be ready in 15 turns minus adjustment for Tassagrad's growth next turn.

--Togas