Official: Should the Executive branch have the right to delegate?

[UnOrthOdOx]

Hi

Question: Should the Executive branch have the right to delegate the power to play the game to a minister in the event of one or more of the executive branch becomming unable to perform for a short period, not to exceed more than two Turnchats/threads?

Yes
No

Oh, and it expires in 5 days.

[UnOrthOdOx]

This is strictly to keep the game moving. Whould the pres or VP be able to delegate the right to play a turn chat/thread to someone when one or more of them is rendered temporarily unable to. This is virtually the same as the ministers having deputies, and would serve to keep the game moving. Ask yourself, what happens now if MY computer goes down? Do we spend four days or more voting on what to do?

Is it against the CoL? Well, nothing expressly forbids it.

Is this an ammendment? no, just an official poll.

[DAVOUT]

In the silence of the law, and to meet exceptionnal circumstances, the supreme power could be delegated to a minister (elected, not appointed), with limitations in the extent of the powers delegated, and in time.

[Panag]

hi ,

, intresting topic

since this Q is going to be asked ; what about the so called 'CoL' , ....

one thing that shall happend is that with good communications and the nessesary rules and agrements the game shall move faster (!)

have a nice day

P.S. after refresh the vote does not show up

[UnOrthOdOx]

The CoL?

Does this NEED to be an ammendment?

No. With the court, and the archived polls, an official poll will serve the purpose just fine. The CoL says nothing AGAINST this, so it CAN be done, this will just make it 'official' or not.

[DAVOUT]

Would it be a problem to insert the limitations I indicated above in the formal delegation of power ?

[UnOrthOdOx]

To a minister...OK, that seems like a fair compromise.

Done.

[adaMada]

I would agree that the Executive Branch should be able to delegate the power to play turns to someone else; I'd personally perfer that the ministers play the game instead of an appointed official, however. I could see three ways of doing this: a chain of ministers be set up, and that the task moves down the chain until one is able to do it; the prez/vice prez choose which minsiter they want to play the turn; or there be a rotating list of Ministers.

Even if the President/Vice President does appoint a person to play the game, however, that'd probably be ok too.

-- adaMada

[DAVOUT]

Can I insist that the powers delegated be limited, at least in time ? Otherwise it could be used as a way to transmit your office till the end of the mandate.

[GodKing]

no objections here.

[UnOrthOdOx]

Davout.

It states that this is only when one or more of the executives is missing, it states that it is for a short time. Should we mandate 'only one turn' or something of the like? not IMO. Anything that would come up to delegate for an extended time would already require that an executive be GONE for the extended time. If that would happen, there would be an emergency election to replace that executive. If you are that worried about the people you elected abusing this power, vote no. At some point, we must trust the elected officials to make the right decision. And that is speaking as a citizen, not as VP. We trust the ministers to appoint deputies. Why should this be any different?

[DAVOUT]

Delegation of the powers of the elected President is not an ordinary matter, and all details are of major importance, particularly in the silence of the law.

For the trust, I expect that our constitution will leave a very small place to it, if any : political leaders do hopefully their best in their office, but under the control of the people; trust is not enough. Our american friends write on their notes In God we trust, which means Only in God ...

BTW I have voted yes, and I make suggestions because I am worried for you, VP acting President, not for me. I understand that you are under pressure, but remember who said if you do it, do it right ? Answers to your poll are not necessarily antagonistic, they could aim only to do something right, even if you think differently.

[UnOrthOdOx]

OK, you got me there.

Ok, Ok. How is two chats/thread maximum. Anything more requires an emergancy vote.

[DAVOUT]

Agree, just because I cant help trusting you a little

[Harovan]

It is ok to name a deputy for turnthreads, at which the minister is absent. But this shall be limited. 2 is a good number for this limit. Who is absent for longer, should step back from his minister office, or not run for the given term (as I did, because I won't be here for the next 2 weeks).

Definitely not tolerable is to split the office in 4 parts and to name 3 permanent deputies, as seen in the city planning office . This has nothing to do with democracy. If one is unable to do his job himself and alone, he should have not ran for the minister post.

Since my answer would be "Yes and No" or better "Yes, but not in the way it is abused" and there's no abstain option, I refuse to vote.