City Site Possibility near Napoleton

[Will 5001]

There is no choice now, site I is now under stuttgart borders.

[Shiber]

Will: so are we going to site 1 or not?
I sure do hope not because I have no idea how we're going to defend that site, now that we need every spearman we can produce.

[Panag]

hi ,

why dont we pull back the settler for now , ....

the two spear man on a mountain could stop and see the invaders who come that way

have a nice day

[Will 5001]

Now, this is a tricky situation, I will look at the save and report back tommorow, however, it depends on how commited the SMC is on the war on France, and if we are able to support the city, if not I suggest that we use the galleys to get to uber isle.

[Will 5001]

Originally posted by Shiber
Heh.
Panag, I was pointing out your mistakes and the superiority of the current plan over your suggestion. I was debating, not enforcing. Isn't debating what you do in a democracy after all?
As for repeating the plan, I was repeating it for you (only because you obviously don't bother to read threads, you just read the last two posts and write something vague). I wasn't suggesting it over again and trying to claim the credit as you were implying.
As for the rest of your post, I'm afraid I cannot relate to it because I simply didn't understand most of what you were trying to say. Most of your sentences don't connect and you use Hebrew grammer and Hebrew forms of speech too much and it gets confusing. Putting sarcasm aside, you should really try to improve your English. I mean it.

I am sorry Shiber, but a personal attack is not part of a democracy, if you wanted to complain at Pang's English then you could have offered suggestions, or if you wanted to criticise or ask for clarification you should have sent a PM.
Winston Churchill did make a personal attack in the House of Commons when he was drunk in the following dialogue:

MP: "Winston Churchill, you are horribly drunk!"
Winston: "Yes, but at least in the morning I will be sober but you will still be ugly"

Although this is quite amusing, this is not a way to run a democracy, there should at least be an apology . (Anyway, I understood most, if not all, of Pang's post)

[Panag]

hi ,

Will 5001 , thanks , the problem is "solved" , lets hope it stays that way (!)

now , back to topic ;

if we look at the picture very good we can see mountains and hills , the city has to be near the water that is for sure , ...now , since we are at war with germany we could even settle inside thier land , .....

so we could even have more options , ....

the best would be to place the city at site 1 , for more details look at Aro's picture

for now we should wait with the settler , move the units forward or let them stay with the settler , ....

we should just wait on the next moves from germany in that area , ....

one thing that we may not forget is that because of the level we are the AI has extra starting units , and some of those shall be still around , .....

the two units (spearman) should stay on high ground , even if the germans try to break true near there we shall have plenty of time to react in that corner , ...

why , well we just use the terrain to our advantage , .... (!)

have a nice day

[Shiber]

Settling in sites 1 or 2 are bad ideas.
How do you suppose we can protect it? We're already occupied in 3 fronts.

[Shiber]

In response to Will 5001:
I sent him a few PMs and he responded sarcastically and then called me a troll.
It appears that Panag is not familiar with the basics of proper debate. I once explained to him why we can't switch to Republic yet because of the upkeep and he said that I want to enforce my opinion over his and control the game and said something sarcastic like "why don't you run in all the elections and control the game yourself?".
I'm afraid I don't see any proper reason in Panag's actions, nor do I want to continue to spam other people's threads with our arguments, which seem to be going in circles anyway. Therefore I ask of Panag not to reply to this post (if he wants to do so) on this thread but with a PM.
Thank you.

[Panag]

Originally posted by Shiber
I sent him a few PMs and he responded sarcastically and then called me a troll.
I once explained to him why we can't switch to Republic yet because of the upkeep and said that I want to enforce my opinion over his and control the game and said something sarcastic like "why don't you run in all the elections and control the game yourself?". If this is the kind of response that Panag gives to people who show their disagreement with his suggestions then he is obviously not familiar with the basics of proper debate.
I'm afraid I don't see any proper reason in Panag's actions, nor do I want to continue to spam other people's threads with our arguments. Therefore I ask of Panag not to reply to this post, if he wants to do so, on this thread but with a PM.
Thank you.

hi ,

you just cant stop it can you , ......

do the words 'the problem is solved' and lets hope it stays that way mean anything at all , ......

only a couple lines above your post , .....

now , drop it stop it and keep it that way , ....

and that goes for the others to !

stay on topic

now , since you start to post again , you want not a repley in the thread but with pm , ....yet you can post in thread , ....very funny , .....

and there is one think you can respect , what is in a PM goes never in a thread , ....

now , you know the thruth as you are the one who start to make fun out of other people , ...and not alone 'panag' , ....

now , it was all forgotten and put in the past , but dont start again , ....

you can use pm or go to the OT , but stop this flaming , both in this thread and in each other thread

have a nice day

[Shiber]

Okay, whatever. I honestly don't care what the "outcome" of this so-called flame war is as long as it stops (you can say I'm suffering from "war weariness", lol).
If it helps:
Let it be known throughout the jungle-ridden land of Apolytonia that Panag and Shiber have signed a truce. Let it be known that Shiber will never again reply to Panag's post or criticize his ideas in order not to trigger a response from Panag.

Thank you.

[SABRA]

Originally posted by Shiber
Okay, whatever. I honestly don't care what the "outcome" of this so-called flame war is as long as it stops (you can say I'm suffering from "war weariness", lol).
If it helps:
Let it be known throughout the jungle-ridden land of Apolytonia that Panag and Shiber have signed a truce. Let it be known that Shiber will never again reply to Panag's post or criticize his ideas in order not to trigger a response from Panag.

Thank you.

You just could not leave it , you had to post .

Imagine when some people start to jump on your back because you make a small error in your grammar .

If you are going to start to criticize everyone on this site on how poor their english is then you are in for a long ride .
Their are people from all over the world who come to meet and talk on this site .

No where did any-one posted a post that was in any way "sarcastically" to you .

Yet you post above such a type of answer .

No where did any-one called you a troll .

Since you came to this site you have insulted and responded "sarcastically" to other poster's .

Like panag say's ; "drop it and stop it"

On a couple occasion's panag wrote that in the last couple of weeks . However you feel the need to start it again .

Why ?

As Will5001 wrote in his post a non "sarcastically" apology to the people you have insulted would be in his proper place here .

As mentioned before by panag and me there is room to express your feelings true either a Private Message or you could use the Off Topic thread to a certain extention .

One thing that is off limits on this site and it's thread's is the posting of the content of a PM .

And if you find that you are suffering from "war weariness" then you should not have started the war or continued it .

NOW END IT

[Shiber]

Panag, I PM'ed you my cellphone number. We can talk on the phone.
I believe this would be the best way to resolve this dispute without bothering other people.
Sabra: you can have my cellphone number too if you'd like to talk. Just PM me or Panag for the number.

[Will 5001]

It seems that both of you have lowered yourselves to petty squabbling. I hope that this can be resolved. As a native speaker of English (as can be seen from the flag!!), I am impressed at how many people can speak English well enough to participate here, in my opinion, any person who can debate in this manner using a foreign language is doing very well (I don't think I know anyone who could participate in a French or Spanish debate of this kind!!).
Now, about the game, I have asked Aggie if a city site at the site I would be feasible, if not then we will set sail for Uber Isle, Hooray!!!

[Shiber]

Okay, let's get one fact straight: I did not criticize Panag's English the way he puts it.
I was answering a PM that Panag sent me when I came across two sentences which I simply could not understand. At the bottom of my reply to his PM I said that I couldn't make out the meaning of some of what he said and I suggested that he tries to improve his English in the future. I'm afraid Panag has blown this way out of proportion.
Panag: I apologize if my words were misleading. I hope you'll understand that I did not mean to hurt your feelings. I happen to know a great deal of people who are much smarter than me and have poor English so I don't judge people according to how good their grammar and punctuation are.
Now if you call the number I PM'ed you we could set everything straight. I'm sure it's just a big misunderstanding and that we can bridge all the gaps.

[Shiber]

Correction: I have just reread one of the PMs I sent Panag from my sent items folder and I realized I did criticize his English in an inappropriate way. I apologize for doing so.
I must have a selective memory!