City Site Possibility near Napoleton

[Shiber]

I must say I'm afraid that Germany might culture-flip it. However, II is just too close to Norwick and would be a bad choice if we are to ally with Greece against England later. IMHO site 1 will give us an easier-to-defend front. We should send a few swordsmen there as soon as possible as well as garrison it with two or three pikemen once we have Feudalism.
(I hope I'm not repeating somebody else's suggestions. If so, I apologize)

[Panag]

Originally posted by Shiber
Panag, I see you still don't understand the idea of the settler hop. This is basically how this will work:

Galley A is an empty galley. Galley B is loaded with a settler. Both begin in the coastal tile SouthEast of Apolyton.
Phase 1: Galley A travels two tiles SE and ends the turn with a 50% chance of sinking.
Phase 2: If galley A sinks we will build a new galley, probably in Apolyton, and then try again. Otherwise, Galley B will travel one tile SE. The settler on galley B will move to galley A (one tile SE). Galley B will return to shore and end its turn safely while galley A, now carrying the settler will move 3 tiles SE and also end the turn safely.

This is the best possible plan. The only risk involved is a 50% chance that an empy galley would sink (not two galleys Panag, just one), while your plan (just send a galley with a settler) has a bigger risk: a 50% chance that both a galley and a settler would sink.
If you have a better idea please suggest it instead of making general and vague statements.

hi ,

Shiber , one can see that you go true great lenghts to explain certain things , now maybe those people allready have experience with that , ...

and there is no need to try to "explain" everything to the same couple of persons over and over and over again , ....

as for the plan in your own words "its just a suggestion"

if you have better ideas why dont YOU run for every post there is and get all the jobs , so that you can control the whole game , only the way YOU see it , ....

we are a democrazy form of state ( ) , in where everyone , again in your own words can post his and her ideas , ....there is again no need to always take a couple people and break down their views and ideas , ...
those people dont do it with you , so please dont do it to others , ....

now , if you really want to find out how many tiles and moves there are ,

> make a map that is the same of the area in Q , (in the editor) , place the units and play the moves , ....

you shall find that its nearly impossible to tell when and when not a ship shall sink , .....

have a nice day

[Shiber]

Heh.
Panag, I was pointing out your mistakes and the superiority of the current plan over your suggestion. I was debating, not enforcing. Isn't debating what you do in a democracy after all?
As for repeating the plan, I was repeating it for you (only because you obviously don't bother to read threads, you just read the last two posts and write something vague). I wasn't suggesting it over again and trying to claim the credit as you were implying.
As for the rest of your post, I'm afraid I cannot relate to it because I simply didn't understand most of what you were trying to say. Most of your sentences don't connect and you use Hebrew grammer and Hebrew forms of speech too much and it gets confusing. Putting sarcasm aside, you should really try to improve your English. I mean it.

[jdjdjd]

Originally posted by Shiber
Heh.
Panag, I was pointing out your mistakes and the superiority of the current plan over your suggestion. I was debating, not enforcing. Isn't debating what you do in a democracy after all?
As for repeating the plan, I was repeating it for you (only because you obviously don't bother to read threads, you just read the last two posts and write something vague). I wasn't suggesting it over again and trying to claim the credit as you were implying.
As for the rest of your post, I'm afraid I cannot relate to it because I simply didn't understand most of what you were trying to say. Most of your sentences don't connect and you use Hebrew grammer and Hebrew forms of speech too much and it gets confusing. Putting sarcasm aside, you should really try to improve your English. I mean it.

[Panag]

Originally posted by Shiber
Heh.
Panag, I was pointing out your mistakes and the superiority of the current plan over your suggestion. I was debating, not enforcing. Isn't debating what you do in a democracy after all?
As for repeating the plan, I was repeating it for you (only because you obviously don't bother to read threads, you just read the last two posts and write something vague). I wasn't suggesting it over again and trying to claim the credit as you were implying.
As for the rest of your post, I'm afraid I cannot relate to it because I simply didn't understand most of what you were trying to say. Most of your sentences don't connect and you use Hebrew grammer and Hebrew forms of speech too much and it gets confusing. Putting sarcasm aside, you should really try to improve your English. I mean it.

hi ,

stop it , drop it and stay on topic , please

have a nice night

[Panag]

Originally posted by Vlad Antlerkov
...and of course, it helps if I attach the damn thing...

Apologies for the low quality, but you get the idea.

hi ,

quality is okay Vlad

the pic is a real help

site one seems the most logical one

have a nice day

[Reddawg]

site 1 defn. is better

[Kickbooti]

I LOVE the idea of the city at the inland sea. Lets separate England and Germany. Buying a temple in that city would be worthwhile as well.

[Panag]

Originally posted by Kickbooti
I LOVE the idea of the city at the inland sea. Lets separate England and Germany. Buying a temple in that city would be worthwhile as well.

hi ,

first a temple , then a courthouse , a lib , a barracks , ...

yeah , it can be a strategic town after a while , ...

have a nice day

[Vlad Antlerkov]

Yeah, a temple in that city is imperative. In addition to making it somewhat more difficult to flip, it'd push against Norwich's borders, eventually allowing us to flip Norwich over to our side.

The first cultural expansion would put Norwich right on our border, so if we wished to take it by force, we could. We'd get it by the second expansion of the borders there (and probably the iron next to Hamburg, too).

How soon will we get around to building a temple in Napoleton, out of curiosity?

[Shiber]

No, barracks should come before the courthouse. The city will be horribly corrupted and a courthouse would take 80 turns. We need the barracks as soon as possible to help defend against attacks.

[Shiber]

AFAIK the temple was supposed to be pop-rushed the previous turn. I don't know what happened. Perhaps the city planner prefers to build up population in Napoleton.
Btw, I love your new avatar.

[Panag]

hi ,

what ever we are going to build there , a temple would be good , in the mean time the city shall grow , ...

but with the help of some workers it shall grow faster , that is what we need

the courthouse , well it helps fight corruption , so we loose less shields , ...

have a nice day

[Will 5001]

I prefer the site where the settler is going (II) mainly because we will get a larger radius and it is less likely to get flipped, Norwich is only a size one city, so if we build a few cultural improvments we will get the upper hand or we may even flip it, in that case we could simply disband it, get some workers and then our city will have more room to grow, wheras, at the other site, Berlin is closer and it will be harder to flip Norwich from that position. If we do go to war with England we wil be closer for our preliminary attack and they will have less time to respond, we could hide our units in the cities (does the AI see how may units there are, even if they are in cities? Or do they react at all to the amount of units on their borders?). I believe that site II would be best, I could put it to a poll if you want, but only if there is sufficient interest!

[Shiber]

Uhh... I guess now we'll have to cancel this plan. The only way to assure the safely of this town is to send two veteran spearmen along with the settler, and we just can't spare a single unit right now.