Adam Smith Foundation: Profitable Mapwhoring Project

[Kloreep]

Just one point: we'd need te buy the Greek's WM, not their TM. (Unless they've founded another city already, but, in that case, we'd still miss out on some of their map of the island.)

[Shiber]

Other than satisfying our curiosity, buying the Greek WM will have no positive effect on our civilization. So what if they've made contact or are about to make contact with a "lost civ"? As sad as it sounds, there's nothing we can do now.
I oppose spending money to buy the Greek WM. I see no actual benefits coming out of it.

[MrWhereItsAt]

And it is a GOOD point too, Kloreep - thank you.

Unfortunately, we can only make this trade two ways:

As proposed above, sell our TM to Greece for their TM + 1 gold.

OR, buy their WM for our WM and 4 gold (as in WE pay).

Nonetheless, 4 gold is nothing, and the fact they aren't willing to swap means they know something we don't - let us go with the second option!

Concerns, agreements, rants?

[Shiber]

I disagree. Other than satisfying our curiosity, new maps of Sky Isle (Greece's island) will not benefit us in any way (see my post above yours).

[Spiffor]

IIRC, the AI sells each unexplored square for 2 gold. Itmeans the Greeks now 2 more tiles than last time.

But I say go for it, and Shiber wil agree with me :
Since the other Civs are willing to pay some money for our WM, their geographic knowledge is lesser than ours. Meaning, they don't know the Greek map (which is on par with ours).

I.e, if we buy the Greek map, we'll have 2 extra explored tiles to sell to everyone. Just imagine Rome, Russia, England, France etc. willing to pay us 4 gold more (hey, it's map-whoring isn't it ?)

We should buy Greece's WM before proceeding to the rest of map whoring, for the sake of our wallet !

[Donal Graeme]

Spiff, you hit the nail right on the head. By buying the Greek WM first, we can sell our WM to everyone else for a little bit more. Thus, we earn more money in the long run!

[Togas]

Originally posted by adaMada
Yea, I know that, BUT they can't (by their programming) settle a location they don't "know" about -- so, when we get Uber Island, we'll have to be veryy careful that we don't wind up letting them know about it before we totally colonize it.

We need to sell off our Map as much as possible now before we move to Uber Island. Once we send off those boats to Uber Island I want a moritorium on world map trading until we've sufficiently settled it to keep the other civs from racing to do the same.

--Togas

[Sheik]

After we do these trades we must get to Uber Isle as fast as possible.

[Shiber]

We'll still be able to sell our TM until we settle. I'll see if I can come up with a TM-whoring project in about five to ten turns from now.

[Shiber]

Double post.

[Shiber]

Attention: the latest plan is now on (see top post, page 1). Please let me know if you want any further changes, otherwise I'll put this up on a poll in about 20 hours.

[adaMada]

One last thought...

I know you suggested WM and then TM, and I know we've got a WM plan, but would it be more profitable to do TM first? The AI might not value our TM as much if they have a fairly recently WM, but the opposite may not be true.

Just a thought... I'm not really sure how the AI acts in these sort of situations, but I thought I'd throw it out.

-- adaMada

[Lawrence of Arabia]

Sell the maps and also currency, but wait a couple of tunrs before selling it. That way, we can get max money from the AI. Also, it is better to get a measely sum for it then letting the Ai trade it away from no profit at all for us.