Multiple Polls per Poll?

[Epistax]

Official Poll

Question: Should a single poll thread be able to officially poll more than one item- such as more than one amendment-- using grouping, with each individual poll abiding by the COL?

Options: Yes / No

This poll expires in 3 days

[Epistax]

I'm sorry not to have a pre poll discussion on this but it is a pretty simple question. This would insure us the ability to make rapid reforms to the constitution fixing small errors, and also save space. For instance one amendment that would simply edit a single line of the COL should not be given the same major coverage as a large amendment.

This is to save on clutter, mainly.


This is also my very first poll. I thought I might as well do it on a non-critical matter because I'd hate to screw it up. Feel free to discuss before voting! A yes will allow the COL to be updated a tad bit smoother.

EDIT:

As outline by the COL, the very first post would have to include the information needed for a single poll, for each individual poll inside (although likely with a single expiration date). This would require a lengthy unbiased first post, but that's better than ten short posts in separate threads.

[Apocalypse]

Sure. (Yes).

Are you sure pre-poll discussion isn't required in the COL?

[Apocalypse]

Never mind. It just recommends pre-poll discussion.

[Epistax]

Those who wish to put up a poll are strongly recommended to first discuss the issue in another thread, and bounce around possible options for voting.

And I do apologize. But I do not see how that would effect this poll too much, given the simplicity, any discussion can easily be done in here.


EDIT: Damn you beat me!

[DAVOUT]

I suggest that at least the polls included in a multiple poll are dealing of a common subject, otherwise we would see titles such as : multiple poll on miscellaneous matters.

[civman2000]

Sure, this is a great idea! DAVOUT's change is unnecessary IMHO, if there are multiple misscelaneous subjects it will most likely be unclear anyways.

Ignore those people that say it should've been discussed first . For something this simple, it is unnecessary

[Spiffor]

Before voting, I'd like an explanation : does it completely ban the group voting, or does it just ban several questions to be asked ?

For example, will a poll like

"What should our term limits be ?
-Group A - 1 term
-Group A - 2 terms
-Group A - 3 terms
-Group B - none"

be allowed should your amendment pass ?
I'll hold my vote until the nasxer. I overall think grouping answers is excellent, while grouping questions is bad.

[Epistax]

Spiff, I believe that is already allowed

Anyway I think it'll be funny if 'No' for this wins. I should post 10 amendments right after.. nah that would be malicious.

[SABRA]

Yes , it should .

[Shiber]

I don't see why they shouldn't, if whoever posted the poll feels that it's necessary.
I vote yes.

[Epistax]

While archiving former polls, I came across this:

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=54676

It is a poll by timeline for 3 separate amendments. It is exactly what I am talking about. It's already been done. Let's make it legal

The reason I'd like the legality assured is so that there is no argument against an amendment or poll because it is with another in the same thread.

[Epistax]

I am going to bump this so it will get some votes. Hows about removing the topped elections?

[Panag]

Originally posted by Epistax
While archiving former polls, I came across this:

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=54676

It is a poll by timeline for 3 separate amendments. It is exactly what I am talking about. It's already been done. Let's make it legal

The reason I'd like the legality assured is so that there is no argument against an amendment or poll because it is with another in the same thread.

hi ,

that is the kind of poll that we should have all the time , ....

yes

have a nice day

[Captain]

As long as such polls are very clear, which I am not convinced they would be.

For example, civman's BOR poll had several options.

Item A yes
Item A no
Item B yes
Item B no
Item C yes
Item C no

In which case it would need to allow multiple votes, but multiple votes would also allow people to vote yes and no to the same issue, or to accidentally only vote yes to one and not vote for any others, which would deprive them of the chance to vote on the other issues.

Yes, it is possible this would work fine and be completely clear, but I am not convinced a Bush-Gore Florida situation would not occur. What? I voted for who? I thought I was voting for something else!

I also don't think it's a major problem. IF the amendments are minor enough not to warrant their own separate poll, then they're not important to warrant separate amendments. Make them one amendment. If they're minor, it'll likely pass anyways.

Or perhaps I'm not understanding what you mean by grouping amendments.

Do you mean:

Pass Amendments 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12?
Yes
No

Or separate Yes/No for each amendment?

The first way is better.