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  • Machiavelli Institute: Ally Shield

    I've never tried this in one of my games, but I think this strategy could work:

    I propose we use Persia and Germany as a sort of shield. If we can make allies of them, they would be in the path of two of the stronger nations in Abananaba Major: England and the Aztecs. That leave us to deal with Greece. Basically, if we can satisfy Bismark with a few wars, he won't have time or inclination to attack us. These are not long-term alliances. Once in the late Medieval Age or a little later, we'll have a sizable infrastructur whereas they and their targets won't. We could take a large chunk of Abananaba Major, hopefully eliminating the civs we attack. We don't need (or want) this region for a power base, because of the horrible corruption. That's ok. We can pretty much leave it alone, because next we'll be attacking Greece and the French Remnant. If we manage to kill them, it will be Us vs. Abananaba Minor, which we'll probably have been stirring up anyway. I think we would win that one.

    I don't usually play at Emperor or on huge maps (actually I spend virtually no time playing anymore), so I don't know if this is feasible.

  • #2
    I don't know... Xerxes and Bismarck are after all the most double-crossing bastard in the game to the best of my understanding.
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    • #3
      I agree with Shiber, especially about Otto. He’s really an annoying f%$@ bastard.
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      • #4
        However we might wanna send Persia/Germany/both to war with England. England probably won't attack us back because they'll be too busy with Germany and Persia and we're too far away anyway, and while Persia will be fighting the English their western borders will be completely undefended and ours for the taking. We could take their iron (which will prove to be difficult since that's close to the English border and they'll have units there ready to counter-attack) or try to take Persepolis and the Pyramids (which will prove to be just as difficult since it's a large city).
        The downside is that this will lower our integrity.

        Any thoughts anyone?
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        • #5
          If we could find some way to make England goes for Germans first, or vice versa… Would be funny to see they prune themselves. Something like "take a chair and enjoy the show. They are solving our problems for us...".
          Well… as you can see, I have this little problem with Bismarck. He looks like a psychotic!
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Aro
            If we could find some way to make England goes for Germans first, or vice versa… Would be funny to see they prune themselves. Something like "take a chair and enjoy the show. They are solving our problems for us...".
            Well… as you can see, I have this little problem with Bismarck. He looks like a psychotic!
            hi ,

            and at the end we should move in and take what ever is left , ....héhéh , ....

            have a nice day
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Shiber
              However we might wanna send Persia/Germany/both to war with England. England probably won't attack us back because they'll be too busy with Germany and Persia and we're too far away anyway, and while Persia will be fighting the English their western borders will be completely undefended and ours for the taking. We could take their iron (which will prove to be difficult since that's close to the English border and they'll have units there ready to counter-attack) or try to take Persepolis and the Pyramids (which will prove to be just as difficult since it's a large city).
              The downside is that this will lower our integrity.

              Any thoughts anyone?
              The British couldnt stand up to Germany and Persia. It's basically giving Persia and Germany more cities (and we'd propbably pay them for it too).
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Aro
                If we could find some way to make England goes for Germans first, or vice versa… Would be funny to see they prune themselves. Something like "take a chair and enjoy the show. They are solving our problems for us...".
                Well… as you can see, I have this little problem with Bismarck. He looks like a psychotic!
                Again, if the English started fighting Germany it wouldn't really be a "prune" job. It'd be more of a "transplant" job. Germany (or England, but not likely) would acquire more cities (if not all the enemies).
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                • #9
                  I agree with those who say that Germany and Persia are allies that cannot be trusted... the only way to ensure that they won't fight us is by setting them to war with another civ, and Uber's right, having Persia and Germany attack England would probably just crush England and strenghen Persia and Germany...

                  Still, we should be ready to set Persia and Germany against England and see how much it'd cost, just in case we need to stop either civ from declaring war on us in the near future... we should also check on how much it'd cost to have Persia attack Germany and vice versa, should one of them attack us... again, just in case.

                  Sorry if this doesn't make much sense, I'll come back later and clarify if need be when I've got more time...

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by panag


                    hi ,

                    and at the end we should move in and take what ever is left , ....héhéh , ....

                    have a nice day
                    Well, that’s what I thought… But I can’t decide if this is evil or just naïf
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Aro


                      Well, that’s what I thought… But I can’t decide if this is evil or just naïf
                      hi ,

                      well , actually just plain simple "darwins law" , those other species take up land that we need , .....


                      héhéh

                      have a nice day
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                      • #12
                        Actuallly, I've used this stategy a lot in my games although they're mostly at monarch and warlord. I find that it works great until MPP's come around and you're allies get dragged into a war against you because of some crummy backwards civ.
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