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  • #46
    The court cannot arbitrarily say "so and so is the winner because we say so." What the court can do is come up with a procedure for figuring out what to do. For example:

    Bob and Bill are running for some position. The election results in a tie. Bob and Bill do not like eachother, and neither of them will compromise.

    The court follows the procedures that were set up under GodKing & OPD vs. The People. The court looks at who voted, and discoveres that of the 500 votes, each person had 25 non-citizens vote. If Bill & Bob were no longer tied after discounting non-citizen votes, a winner would be declaired here.

    As it is still tied, the courts look at the their next test, say bribery by the candidates or whatever. Then if still tied, the test after that. So on and so on. Eventually, after the first couple of tests, it is highly unlikely that it would still be tied. If so, they can call it a draw and call for either a re-vote, or whatever they view as fair.

    I wouldn't look for the courts to appoint someone or just arbitrarily declare someone the winner. What we need is for some procedures to be laid out, with the courts administering (they are the only governmental agency that isn't being elected, and are supposidly neutral), so that when and if there ever is any problems, we know what to do instead of just sitting on our bums saying "I dunno".
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    • #47
      Skywalker,
      GK can correct me if I'm wrong, I think he is talking about the court deciding how to proceed in cases of ties, not for the court to choose a winner.

      This in no way represents a court opinion or a decision that the court will hear any such case...I am acting here as a private citizen and have no opinion, just clarifying for skywalker.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by GodKing
        The court follows the procedures that were set up under GodKing & OPD vs. The People.
        Great does this mean that if we have a tie we'll get a legal precident named after us.
        Are we having fun yet?

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        • #49
          We can hope so!!!!!

          Assuming the court agrees to hear it.
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          • #50
            Well, if no one else will form the opposing side, the court can always find me as a public defendant. I will debate to the best of my abilities regaurdless of my feelings. That is, if the need arises.

            That goes for ANY case.
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            • #51
              How would you investigate bribery? How would there BE bribery? Except for non-citizen voters and DL's, of whom there are probably none in this election, there's nothing else they can do. If, after discarding non-citizen and DL votes, it's still a tie, the court can't do anything further.

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              • #52
                Sky, it was an imaginary, make believe scenario. The court will have to decide what the tests are, and how they are to be administered. THAT is why it is important for the court to look at this situation.

                JUST what tests can there be?

                HOW would the test be done?

                In WHAT order?

                That is why the court needs to look into this. And that is all that I am saying.
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                • #53
                  Originally posted by skywalker
                  Except for non-citizen voters and DL's, of whom there are probably none in this election,
                  There's probably a few non-citizen votes in this election but you have to expect that in every poll.

                  this has to be the closest electin ever now.
                  Are we having fun yet?

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                  • #54
                    couldnt GK and OPD split the duties of city planner?

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                    • #55
                      hi ,

                      if the elections results in a tie , we should repoll , with options to abstain , and maybe even a third candidate , ...

                      have a nice day
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                      • #56
                        hmm. While the court obviously cannot pick a winner in this election in the case of a tie, I recommend simpsons trivia best 3 ottah 5.

                        If that doesn't go over so well, the tie breaker could be something such as a vote between the other elected officials (I don't even want to think about what happens if every election, or even more than one, is a tie). We can't have a run off because.. well.. there's two of them.

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                        • #58
                          NAAARRRGH
                          Are we having fun yet?

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                          • #59
                            Godking takes the lead. Very close, very close indeed...
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                            • #60
                              Originally posted by panag
                              hi ,

                              this issue should be in the COL

                              have a nice day
                              It is. I believe it is under the implied jurisdiction of the High Court. If this does end in a tie, there shouldnt be much controversy, the court would just form a plan of action and the people will vote on it or something, that is all.
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