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    The Apolytonian Thinkers Guild

    The idea of a Thinkers Guild is as old as the Apolytonian Republic; it was recently awaken by Chandragupta, and the considerable achievements of the War Academy and the Machiavelli Institute show that some crucial concepts of the game did not fall in their specialized areas (War and Diplomacy). This is the purpose of the Thinkers Guild: try to clarify what is not already analysed by other institutions.

    Nobody will be surprised that thinkers have started thinking before the formal inception of the Guild! This will be regularized by this post.

    Note that the Apolytonian Thinkers Guild is neither a political party nor a governmental office. Like the illustrious War Academy and Machiavelli Institute it is a place to discuss and learn from each other, not to decide. We will discuss various ideas, trying to extract from appearances and prejudices the hard core and potential consequences. This will be made available to the government and to everybody for their own thinking in preparing decisions. Members of all political parties are welcome as well as all other citizens of Apolytonia.

    Four simple rules:

    1 - Every citizen of Apolytonia has the right and is explicitly encouraged to take part in the discussions. Questions and comments are welcome.

    2 - Every citizen of Apolytonia who agrees with the spirit of the Guild has the right to join the Guild staff.

    3 - Every member of the Thinkers Guild has the right to open discussion threads. They shall be marked with the words "Thinkers Guild: (thread title)". So if somebody wants to discuss about Political issues, the thread title should be: "Thinkers Guild: Political issues" or similar. They will take care not to duplicate threads already opened.

    4 - We expect our members and visitors to keep seriousness. Spam posts like "The Banana thinks for you!" or "Kill them all before they think!" or similar and off-topic posts are unwelcome.
    (This is a shameless plagiarism of the War Academy post : Thanks Sir Ralph!)

    And now, citizens of Apolytonia : Think fast, think deep, think always !


    All citizens who have already posted in threads under the Thinkers Guild heading are considered as members, unless they disagree.

    Guild staff
    ThePlagueRat (Founder)
    Chandragupta
    DAVOUT (Secretary)
    Godking
    UberKruX
    GePap
    Spiffor
    UnOrthOdOx
    Aro
    Aggie
    Robber Baron
    Sir Ralph
    Papa Chubby
    GoodFella
    Panag
    Jdjdjd
    Epistax
    Jonny
    Carpathia
    Vlad Antlerkov
    adaMada
    MrWhereItsAt
    SwitchMoO
    Kickbooti


    Threads library

    Topic Author Date
    What does it means to be a builder ?DAVOUT 02/08/2002
    Which victory ? DAVOUT 08/08/2002
    How to discuss in a Civ3 Demo game? DAVOUT 20/08/2002
    When should we have our Golden Age adaMada 25/08/2002
    Still pop rushing ? DAVOUT 28/08/2002
    Intellectual reports ThePlagueRat 18/09/2002

    The Apolytonian Thinkers Guild
    Last edited by DAVOUT; September 19, 2002, 06:52.
    Statistical anomaly.
    The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.
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  • #2
    As I will be away untill august 24, citizens wanting to become members of the Thinkers Guild will just say so on this thread, and the members list will be updated as soon as I return.
    Statistical anomaly.
    The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.

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    • #3
      I guess I might as well join, as I'm in all the other Guilds/Academies/Institutes/Foundations, and I'm sure I'll have some threads to post under the name of this one before too long as well .

      -- adaMada
      Civ 3 Democracy Game:
      PTW Game: Proud member of the Roleplay Team, and Ambassador to Glory of War
      Intersite PTW Game: Member of Apolyton

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      • #4
        Why am I being ignored by so many? I have posted - why aren't I in the list?

        Oh well, put me in. I hope not everyone has suddenly decided to put me on their ignore list.

        El Presidente
        MrWIA
        Consul.

        Back to the ROOTS of addiction. My first missed poll!

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        • #5
          Originally posted by MrWhereItsAt
          Why am I being ignored by so many? I have posted - why aren't I in the list?

          Oh well, put me in. I hope not everyone has suddenly decided to put me on their ignore list.

          El Presidente
          MrWIA
          How could somebody believe one second that His Imperial Highness, El Presidente MrWhereItsAt Primero, has been ignored even by only one !
          As I said in a post above, I was away a few days, which explains that I am only now able to celebrate the great honour HIH made to the Thinkers Guild.
          Statistical anomaly.
          The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.

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          • #6
            adaMada,

            You are welcome, and your threads as well !
            Statistical anomaly.
            The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.

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            • #7
              Good to see the thinker's guild back alive again. (not that i was an active member, but it's an interesting place of debate )

              I suppose the guild is here to think about "the big picture". My views on the big picture are :

              - We will win against France and against America, because of our superior forces, tactics, and surprise.

              - But we'll have a poor infrastructure and a corrupt land we'll have to correct by building, massively. If we want our great undertaking to be done before the end of Middle ages, we'll have to sacrifice everything for the sake of building (except our defensive troops).

              - If we don't, we'll still have jungle and less than 12 pop. cities when railroads and hospitals come out.
              Worse, we'll be outproduced by the "cheating" AI, namely Greeks and Germans : with a smaller and more worked country, Greeks and Germans will be industrial powerhouses during the early medieval era. With our barren land (except Apolyton and Termina), we'll be unable to match them.

              - That's why I say we should avoid a knightwar at all costs. We simply can't be ready to face the pumped-up AI during this period.

              - Once our great building undertaking is over (hopefully before military tradition), we would be ready to prepare dealing with the worst threat, which seem to be the Germans (industrial powerhouse with all these mountains, agressive gremlins)

              - In the meantime, we should strive for good relationship with other countries, including France. Trading resources and luxuries would be a good way to go.

              - Once the great building undertaking is over, we'll hve a choice between a war to expand our territory (Greece, Germany, France and Persia would all be likely targets), a war to prune the top power (probably Rome, Aztecs or Greece), or simply t build even more, in preparation of railroad.
              "I have been reading up on the universe and have come to the conclusion that the universe is a good thing." -- Dissident
              "I never had the need to have a boner." -- Dissident
              "I have never cut off my penis when I was upset over a girl." -- Dis

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              • #8
                Spiffor,

                Our performance till now was made possible by our trait Industrious ; the building phase will be greatly helped by that trait, and makes me believe that we will not have to sacrifice everything as you said. The problem is that the Greeks will certainly not leave us alone, and after them, the Germans who are Industrious as we are. But they are also Scientific, and the management of the research will be of the utmost importance before the German war.
                But we are Religious, and this trait can be utilized more than we did.
                If we survive the wars against Greece and Germany, the future will be bright !
                Statistical anomaly.
                The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.

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                • #9
                  The Germans are militaristic and scientific (One more reason to be aware. They will jump over us soon or later).
                  Btw, the Greeks are scientific and commercial.
                  RIAA sucks
                  The Optimistas
                  I'm a political cartoonist

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                  • #10
                    Despite my prolonged absence, I'm still here. I've been taking a vacation, and just got back. Count me for The Thinker's Guild .

                    BTW, where can I find a recent map?
                    I AM.CHRISTIAN

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Aro
                      The Germans are militaristic and scientific
                      Right. IMHO that makes the prospect slightly better.
                      Statistical anomaly.
                      The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by SwitchMoO


                        BTW, where can I find a recent map?

                        Youll find the Aro's wonderful map here :

                        Top: Term 3 Government and Forum Directory


                        Members list updated. Welcome !
                        Statistical anomaly.
                        The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.

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                        • #13
                          Big Picture

                          I believe that once we gain knights we must engage in one more round of war-making.

                          I believe that after finishing off the Americans and emasculating the French we should take desirable portions of Greece (Argos, Sparta, perhaps Eritrea and the Ivory Coast) and if things go well, Hannover, Frankfurt, Hamburg and Cologne.

                          My rationale is such:

                          A) We have a large empire, we will need a sizable force of knights to secure our borders. The Germans, Persians and Greeks all pose potential (and considerable) threats. We will need units to contain them. Not to mention patroling the narrows to the Sub-continent; who knows what chaos Russians or Romans could seek to produce.

                          B) These wars would not only produce experienced units, but would potentially provide great leaders that could help rush the many desirable wonders that are available in the Medieval period.

                          C) Taking the eastern spur of Greece and/or the southern German teir would reduce their contries capacities both ecconomically, militarily and in terms of prodcution, while securing our borders and putting us in a position to threaten further attack.

                          If these campaigns are conducted sucessfully, I think that we should engage in a determined period of development that could expand our cluture and capacity.

                          But I believe these moves are necessary to secure the Great Basin and our rightful position of dominance in the world.

                          Always thinking,

                          Kickbooti:

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                          • #14
                            Welcome Kickbooti.

                            It seems that the opinions differs mainly on the order each step should be made rather than on their nature.
                            Statistical anomaly.
                            The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.

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                            • #15
                              Re: The Apolytonian Thinkers Guild

                              Mistake
                              Statistical anomaly.
                              The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.

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