Discussion – proposal for regional administrators and city governors.

[MrWhereItsAt]

Octavian, or any other Phoenatic reading this; can you tell us how powerful these governors are? In the case of a particular few cities being ideal in which to build a certain Wonder, units etc that are necessary for overall strategy, is it the governor who has the final say on what goes on in their charge? Or can the Council/Prez/people overrule them on a significantly important issue. Or has the problem of conflict between governors' wishes and peoples' wishes never arisen?

Y'see, here we seem to be interested in all the niggly legal loopholes, so I wondered how you sorted this out.

Cheers in advance.

[disorganizer]

The governor has the last word on the build queues on his province. But the executive part of government hold override rights under special conditions.
For example the cultural leader can override if he notices a cultural building will be better for overall culture.
As our constitution states clearly, if 2 citizens think a poll is needed on a topic under the area of a leader, they can force him to put up a citizen vote. He then has to comply to this vote or risk impeachment.

[Kuciwalker]

Wow. You guys give a lot more power to the citizens than we do. Unfortunately, our Code of Laws does not state anywhere that officials must follow polls.

[disorganizer]

we fought for that one in term1 ;-)
our constitution states clearly that the officials HAVE to follow the will of citizenry. the only problem was to define when and how they get to know this will...
but with some finetuning still to be done we have a pretty good ruleset at the moment to ensure this.

[Inverse Icarus]

Originally posted by disorganizer
we fought for that one in term1 ;-)
our constitution states clearly that the officials HAVE to follow the will of citizenry. the only problem was to define when and how they get to know this will...
but with some finetuning still to be done we have a pretty good ruleset at the moment to ensure this.

I fought AGAINST that in our first term

[Inverse Icarus]

oh, and question: what would we have to do to make this official?

[Kuciwalker]

OT: Uber, why'd you get rid of the <----WEST-EAST----> thing?

[Inverse Icarus]

Originally posted by skywalker
OT: Uber, why'd you get rid of the <----WEST-EAST----> thing?

bored. very bored.

i need something good to put in there now

[Octavian X]

A few more notes on our system. In the event of an invasion, the military leader would be able to override queues to allow production of units. The Domestic Department dictates which cities build wonders.

[Inverse Icarus]

Originally posted by Octavian X
A few more notes on our system. In the event of an invasion, the military leader would be able to override queues to allow production of units. The Domestic Department dictates which cities build wonders.

hey this guys a genius. give him a custom avatar

[GodKing]

Quite a few good ideas. I will rewrite in the when I get back from vacation (august 13th or so), so please keep working on it.

ps - this time I will remember to not use tab's and just use spaces.....

[Inverse Icarus]

Next Question:

Would/Should ordinary citizens be able to choose which City/Province they live in? Would this affect participation in any way?

Example:

Could people of the Province Uber Isle (just making one up) elect their govenor? Would the rest of Apolytonia be able to vote for Uber Isle's Governor?

Technically, couldnt this create radically different areas of the nation? Like a bunch of "War Sectors", and few "Culture Areas"? Basically breaking down into UFC controlled Sectors and DIA Controlled Sectors? Where people who live in a sector have one political blief and vote that way over and over again? Are there term limits on Govenors?

THE PEOPLE WANT TO KNOW.

[Inverse Icarus]

Oh, and I've been skimming most of the posts now (I kinda skipped a few of them) and what Gepap said was true, it will get very confusing with people protesting for the PW minister for roads.

Perhaps some of the offices should be "broken down" entierely to the local level (city planner, pw minister, ie minister)? Or maybe the "National" minister could just sit back and approve the orders, or object where needed.

For example:

say we want to build some more cities and form a new province. Why would someone want to build settlers for someone else's cities? The National IE Minister and the National City Planner would have to intervene.

[Panag]

hi ,

what exact functions would these guys have , ....

have a nice day

[GePap]

If we at some point begin to use governors, and perhap move towards a governmet more similar to the phonetican system, we would have to, and I recommned, cutting the size of the cabinet down, dramatically. We would not need or really want 8 ministers and then prez. and VP. Like any borken record, 4 ministers are enough, specialy if we have governors.