Official : Plan Gold

[GodKing]

I support as long as we do not forget to build up our own territory as a priority. Also, before we march, we need to have some clear objectives. Very clear. Such as, stop when we get the wine, or stop after the last man falls. Either way - as long as we have a clearly defined start and end point.....

[Vlad Antlerkov]

We do. Our plan is to go after Paris and Orleans, as per Uber's plan, then when the Frenchies sue for peace, ask for Rheims and Chartres as part of the deal. If they refuse, take Rheims and Chartres, then see what we can get (namely, Marseilles). We're also after a leader (for Forbidden Palace) and some elite units.

Here's the war plan.

[Harovan]

I was against this plan at first, because I thought it slows us down too much. But after carefully considering the situation, I approve it. Yes from me.

[Aggie]

I too was against this idea for the initial war with france. However, it does seem that it is a good idea. So add me to the converted list. Though I do say, due to the longer prep time, we try to secure at least 3 cities by force before peace talks. Good job OPD .
Aggie

[Kramerman]

I've converted too. I wanted to focus on infrastructure, but this is a good idea, and we will be able to knock down another apponent and gain more territory and citizens.

[MJW]

[Inverse Icarus]

i'm voting yes, although i dislike the dead endedness of this plan (swordsmen don't upgrade).

After the wars with France and America, we may just use them as Garrisons

[MrWhereItsAt]

YES! Time to easily triple our strength.

Swordsmen don't upgrade, but they would make good garrisons. And we shouldn't stop planning wars until we are big enough to not have to worry about not being able to upgrade Swordsmen.

[Harovan]

Swordsmen are lousy garrisons, because they don't upgrade. I suggest to replace them ASAP. Let them fill up our army and die out in the battles to come, after their time was gone.

[Guardian]

-Or we can keep them until they're no longer needed, then disband them and get some of the shields back. (When a unit is disbanded inside a city, a quarter of the shields it took to build that unit is returned to the city and goes straight into the current build project.)

Anyway, I approve the plan, even though I normally don't like swordsmen all that much...
I prefer knights, which are faster and stronger and can be upgraded to cavalry when the time comes. However, in this case, waiting for them to become available would leave us sitting on our butts for way too long, which is actually a lot worse than having a few units that can't be upgraded. Besides, once you get to cavalry, you're at a dead end anyway, so it's all give and take, I suppose. We need units that can hit hard in 20 turns from now, and at that the swordsmen are the best we can get. So, get the swords and grab us another couple of quick and decisive victories. We can build more advanced units later on, when we more land and a better infrastructure to support them.

[Kramerman]

Originally posted by Sir Ralph
Swordsmen are lousy garrisons, because they don't upgrade. I suggest to replace them ASAP. Let them fill up our army and die out in the battles to come, after their time was gone.

They may not be the best garrisons, but they could work until we could dsband them and replace them with musketman. I dont think that ot would be to hard.

Kman

[Donal Graeme]

Do we really need 10 swordsmen? If you ask me half that many are more than enough. That way we save money and time spent on producing warriors, that way we can start upgrading our cities.

edit: Don't forget, we have 5 archers who can help, and they don't advance beyond longbowmen. So losing them and the swordsmen now won't be the end of the world.

[Kuciwalker]

Five Swordsmen doesn't give us enough of a safety margin. With ten, victory is assured.

[GePap]

Well, since war with France appears to have been chosen aready, this is by far the most interesting , original plan, which also gives us space for domestic improvements and growth: a very nice balance overall and a good foundation for the future. great job OPD.

[GodKing]

Thanks Vlad.