What do we do now ?

[notyoueither]

Good job guys!

[Jon Shafer]

What we need to do right now: develop our current cities, build up a defense, and explore new areas. Another war will be very risky unless we have Swordsmen, and in the meantime we can get more done at home.

[Edrix]

There are two main strategies we could follow here:
1) Build a hell of a lot of settlers, increase our military size, and expand before the other civs (such as Germany, Greece, and Persia) get their grubby mits on the good land.
2) Increase our military size, conquer another civ (probably France), and gain cities that way.
If we follow #2, we could follow it with #1 down to Abananaba Minor, and meet the Russians/Romans in their lands. However, the best strategy to get us into the early part of the Middle Ages is probably #1 (later followed by #2), so that we don't get too bad a reputation for constantly declaring war. Anytime we do implement #2, our first priority should be to finish off the Americans.

[Epistax]

The only neighbors we have that are viable for attack are the Germans and French. Greece and Persians simply aren't options until later.

Last time I checked, germans did not have resources. They might actually prove to be a better target than the French, however expanding that way would give us the following borders: France, Greece, Persia, Aztec, (remaining Germans and Americans)

[Ninot]

My personal preference is to clear this jungle. Once we do, we have a LOT of grassland, dont we? That will ensure much prosperence into the future.

As for more war.. war is all and good, but Persia would be a hard foe, and France is our #1 trading partner. I favor a nice period of peace for now

[notyoueither]

Settler... settler... settler. Fill in those blanks before the Greeks and Germans do.

War with France later.

We should build a city right next to Chartres (just on the far bank of the river from Termina) ASAP.

[Inverse Icarus]

Originally posted by Spiffor
I think we should wait for the spearman to arrive in Atlanta, and the second citizen will become productive. I also strongly suggest we make the citizen in Gaia work, because she doesn't need to entertain herself.

Edit : UberKrux :
I blackened the boxes, but I've done so on several screens (this picture comes from several max. zoom screenshots pasted together). I felt too lazy to make it look correect on sea

if you hit the "delete" button (under insert) the boxes go away

[Inverse Icarus]

Originally posted by Ninot
My personal preference is to clear this jungle. Once we do, we have a LOT of grassland, dont we? That will ensure much prosperence into the future.

As for more war.. war is all and good, but Persia would be a hard foe, and France is our #1 trading partner. I favor a nice period of peace for now

to quote the alien frmo independence day...

alien: "peace? no peace."

president: "what do you want us to do?"

alien: "die... DIE..."

:: president doubles over in pain ::

[Ninot]

... but in the end, the President helps to blow up a space ship! sure.. he loses his wife, but thats no big loss.


an immediate war now cant be very helpful, in comparisson with cutting down the jungles and getting more cities in time for a future war with future units.

and to quote another movie....

"E.T. go home"

and another movie...

"You must saaaaaaave us."

wait, do these have relevance?

[Jon Shafer]

Ninney, we won't be able to clear the jungle until much later. If we focus on clearing the jungle (a big job, needless to say), then that will distract us from other more important matters, i.e. filling in the remaining space with cities, building up our armies, etc.

[Ninot]

Tripper, we need the jungle cleared sometime, and cities filling up that space will be useless if we dont.

building up armies should take a back seat to development untill we hit the middle ages.

[Donal Graeme]

I think at this point we should be concerned with a period of rapid expansion of our borders via culture and the founding of new cities. At this point our works should busy themselves with just connecting our cities, later we can clear the jungle.

edit: But clearing the jungle comes before a military build-up, until knights that is.

edit: Oh wait, did I just bump somebody else's thread, the topic of which I already addressed? Doh!

[Jon Shafer]

Originally posted by Ninot
Tripper, we need the jungle cleared sometime, and cities filling up that space will be useless if we dont.

building up armies should take a back seat to development untill we hit the middle ages.

If we don't expand somehow, then we'll be left behind by other cultures like the Aztecs and the Persians. Starting to focus upon clearing the jungle will allow other civs that don't have to clear any jungle to expand to gain a huge lead on us. We're on Emperor... by the Middle Ages we'll be a punching bag for any large civ that wants to come by and beat on us.

[Ninot]

so you want another war? then what about the cities we have? they stay backwards. And there will always be another civ that is bigger untill the jungle goes down.

[MrWhereItsAt]

I think it's time to REX and settle all the good city sites around, especially as many resources as we can get (Incense Valley, Ivory Coast). When they get the chance, make sure our current cities have at least temples, thus there is more of a chance that we needn't waste too many early settlers on the crap jungle - with some luck we can let the other civs take a little of it if they wish, and we should get a few with our culture, provided we're quick enough with building it up. With luck we can long term perhaps take Munich through culture - one of the only priority jungle cities should be near the dyes N of Ubergorsk (how DID we manage to get that Iron first?)

If we don't acquire such cities through culture, then they will be waiting just where we can easily reach them in a future war. Any cities they build there will be effectively useless until coal/rubber, and we just need to make sure we can take them one way or the other before then.

I do think that we need to keep improving our land - but starting with an emphasis on the new American lands, as we could groom some of these to be settler and worker farms - with them up and running early on, we can shift our strategy to building up what we have in Apolytonia itself, whilst repatriated Americans work better lands to the NW.

Or are the strategies that have worked for me somehow inapplicable here?


Remember our priority until now has been to survive by carving out a bit o' land of our very own. We now have the opportunity, we just need to take said land - in reality this is our priority now, as an extension of the objective of the American War itself!

Once we have cities and resources/land, we have options and can start the bickering. We have neither right now, so let's go get them so we can start arguing!