The New Land

[Robber Baron]

If we sell our map to one civ, isn't it likely to turn around and sell it to every other civ (like they do with techs)?

[kring]

That has been my experience.

[punkbass2000]

My only immediate change is to switch the capital from working the whalt to working a forest.
Long term; follow Case Pink, dammit

[Kuciwalker]

Actually, it's Case Blue now.

[Inverse Icarus]

Well, case pink was really just the building plans, not so much the attack posture. i guess it could still be called Case pink, whatever

[rendelnep]

um may i point out but with the invention of map makingit shoud be alot easier to exploit the iron to east considering its very close to the sea and it is also mean we can get there a lot faster.

[rendelnep]

um may i point out but with the invention of map making it shoud be alot easier to exploit the iron to east considering its very close to the sea and it is also mean we can get there a lot faster.

[rendelnep]

um. May I point out but with the invention of map making it shoud be alot easier to exploit the iron to east considering its very close to the sea and it is also means with the triemes we can get there a lot faster. Maybe map making should be considered a high priorty as a part of plan eagle

[Papa Chubby]

Let me just get this right. Is our SMC going to support building a galley during Case Pink, pushing the date of invasion backwards or making us go with less forces. If you support making a Galley, which of the options would you be most keen on going with.

[rendelnep]

soory about the excess posts but for some reason i can't delete them

[Papa Chubby]

It takes 80 shields to build a harbor, which is what we would need if we intend to get the Iron into circulation. As Sir Ralph has pointed out that would simply take to long a time to build in a 1-shield city. Besides we will probably get access to Iron if we conduct an oscillating war with the Americans and the French, something that seems to have gained popular support through Sir Ralphs campaigning.

[mtgillespie]

Should we not wait until the invasion of america, get mapmaking from the americans when they sue for peace, and build our galley then? We should not slow down our military production before the war, especially as it may be for nothing. Don't forget, we cannot safely traverse the sea, so we may need more than one galley to even reach the far coastline, and we definitely will to safely get a settler across, using Uber's idea.

[Kuciwalker]

No, we have another building phase coming up, and it'd be good to fit two or three galleys (what we need for the Uber Gambit) into it. We can get Map Making from the French for the lowest price.

[OPD]

I'm no geograpy student but from the direction of that coastline I think it's likely that it is part of our continent.
Although it's still worth getting a foothold there and quick cos if it's not an island then the AI will have cities there soon.

[Epistax]

I have two current theories for the geography.

1) the super continent we are on swoops to form a correct 'C' shape, so that the water we see south of us is actually a bay, like a big mouth opening on the east.

2) two totally separate continents. Due to our difficulty, we are on the one with more people. The other one might have only two civilizations providing for tough opponents (ie zulus with cruise missiles).

Eitherway, Boat + Settler = Soon