Amendment II - Court Idea Compilation Mk. II

[notyoueither]

I suggest that 2 of the initial judges resign at the end of the first month to be renominated.

That would fix the term problem.

I would volunteer to serve 1 month, stand down and not accept a new appointment.

[Ninot]

I am also very partial to the idea of a committee picking the Justices, at least in the beginning. Is there any other support out there for this idea?

What, ya don't trust me to pick the first 5 justices
lol, ya, a comitee to pick 4 of the 5 would be good.. but how do we decide who is on the comitee?

[Kramerman]

quote:

"I am also very partial to the idea of a committee picking the Justices, at least in the beginning. Is there any other support out there for this idea? "



I prefer the president picking the justices just out of simplicity's sake. Though it does give more power to the president, I don't particularly mind, besides a "corrupt" president can still be overirdden by the citizenry not accepting the pres's choices for Justices.

quote:

"Why not just majority vote? "


Majority vote would need to be defined somewher in the bill. It would certainly be easier thereaftyer to just say "majority vote". I am partial to my definition of more than 50% instead of 50%+1

quote:

"Also, why the Presidential bypass? I appreciate the check and balance, but if the President won't reappoint you, I can't see 75% of the people doing it. The President was popularly elected and carries with him a great deal of political clout and respect. I cannot imagine 75% of the people disagreeing with him about something like a Judicial appointment. "



I see what you mean, but since we already have it, I say we should stick with it for checks and balances' sake. Besides, what if the President decides to appoint all of his poker buddies that aren't qualified for the job, or our little political system developes a "spoils system" where presidents would reward their unqualified supporters with judicial appointments.


Kman

Ok, I just wanted to repost this so it doesn't get lost on the bottom of the last page.

Ninot, I trust you can pick 5 capable judges. And if you can't, well the citizenry can always shoot down your nominations and your reputation as an inept moron (just theoretical) could hurt your reelection. That is why Im satisfied with Presidintial appointees and think the bill shpuld stay as is in that respect.

[MrWhereItsAt]

Well done, Trip.. I am very happy with your amended amendment on the amendment...... I am happy with what you have written most recently here, including the small changes suggested afterwards. This is close to middle ground between all views that I have seen and I advise that, if you find this document acceptable (even if not PERFECTLY conforming to your views) then ACCEPT IT! This is a compromise and the priority now is to get this up and running within an acceptable framework, and to do so NOW.

[wervdon]

Yeah, Id say stagger the terms out some too. Every president should get to nominate at least 1 justice during his term

The best solution like Notyoueither suggested would just have 2 of the judges agree before being nominated that their term will end with the next presidental election.

[Jon Shafer]

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[jdjdjd]

This part I think I would object to,

"The Court is to decide among itself a 'Senior Justice', who will be respondible for ensuring that a report is published for each decision that communicates the rationale behind the decision made, and presiding over any hearings before The Court. "

becuase in effect the Senior Justice could have two votes in a tie. Since there are five justices, should there be a tie in the case when four justices vote, then the remaining justice must vote. If in some fluke where someone abstains or has left the face of Apolytonia, then a split vote=equals a win for the defendant, or leaving the action or poll in place.



and then I need clarification....
"The court may impeach an official with a 75% vote within the court, and a 50% plus 1 vote amongst the people, but only after a Call for Impeachment has been made by a citizen of the nation. "

Is this after impeachment is passed?
"A Justice may be removed from his office by a 50% plus 1 vote amongst the officials and a 2/3 vote amongst the people."