Independent Moderate Party

[Kuciwalker]

Yes, I know the name is an oxymoron. Shut up already

First, I am withdrawing from the UFC and the Hawk Party.

This is a "party", but it is devoted to NOT using party politics. We have no agenda. I know that I have used partisan politics in the past, but I am not proud of it. This is a party for people such as Sir Ralph. With a few exceptions, all of the Independents are also relatively moderate.

A moderate is someone who recognizes the need for war, but does not support it when it is not clearly beneficial. A moderate is someone who recognizes the need for peace, but is willing to support war when needed. A moderate is someone who knows that we cannot poll everything, and cannot poll nothing, and seeks to find the balance. A moderate walks the middle ground.

Despite some of the things I have supported in the past, I am not a warmonger. If you don't believe me, I'll send you a savefile of one of my games. I usually don't go to war until the late Modern Age.

An Independent is someone who refuses to use partisan politics. An Independent is someone who will support people based on their merits, not their party allegiance. An Independent is, well, independent.

I have used partisan politics in the past. I am not proud of that. I will not do so anymore.

This party will not run candidates. This party will not vote as a bloc. This party will not have a real agenda on any issue. This party is for those who are having to choose between black, white, or nothing. Members of the UFC and the DIA are encouraged to vote on party lines. Members of this party vote for who they think is the best for the job.

My hope is that this party will draw enough people out of the two major parties to put an end to partisan politics, or at least give the average Independent a chance. My hope is that this party will reverse the process of polarization underway, or at least halt it and create a middle ground. My hope is that this party will not succeed and grow strong rallying behind a banner, but just let people be themselves.

[LordImpact]

Re: Independent Moderate Party

Originally posted by skywalker


This party will not run candidates. This party will not vote as a bloc. This party will not have a real agenda on any issue. This party is for those who are having to choose between black, white, or nothing. Members of the UFC and the DIA are encouraged to vote on party lines. Members of this party vote for who they think is the best for the job.

Then what's the point really? I'm a UFC member and I vote for who I think will do the best job. I voted for several DIA and Independant candidates today even when they were up against UFC candidates. I have also spoken out about the value of learning to cross party lines to obtain our mututal goals. I think you're underestimating the inteligence of this community. Partisan politics are here to stay. If anything, more parties are going to emerge as we go along.

[UnOrthOdOx]

Aaaa!!! someone beet me to it. LordImpact...would you be interested in a reporter job???

[Kuciwalker]

LordImpact - I am not talking about the citizens. I said that the parties supported voting along party lines.

Unorthodox -

In response to your first question, it is not against party politics. It is devoted to NOT USING party politics.

For your second question, no, it would not. Most people would not just leave a party. This gives them the opportunity to stay within the relative security of a party while being independent.

[LordImpact]

Originally posted by skywalker
LordImpact - I am not talking about the citizens. I said that the parties supported voting along party lines.

Just because a party supports it, doesn't mean citizens are going to do it. Parties don't vote as a whole, citizens vote individually.

[UnOrthOdOx]

skywalker,

I understand where you are comming from. I just feel that most of those who are Independant will not join your party on principle. And most of those IN parties are there to stay.

Parties host candidates, yes, but INDIVIDUALS are the ones who must wake up and live with who they voted for. If some are not strong enough to follow their gut, and strictly follow party lines, they must live with that.

That being said, if you would like to compose a letter to my paper, I will print it. If yo want it in the Party section, pm me and I will give you the format. Time is of the essence, though, as my edition is nearing completion.


GRRR, beat me again

[Inverse Icarus]

skywalker, it appears as if the whole purpose of this party is trying to make a party for sir ralph.

making a party for sir ralph makes you the biggest oxymoron of them all.

and no ones forcing people to vote along party lines in any way. hell, 3/4 of our party will probably vote for sir ralph, because he really is the better man for the job. all of the points you made have either dont exist or are worked out.

and why would independents need soemthing to declare that they are independent? it makes no sense at all.

good luck with your "party" or whatever you want to call it, but if you want to sit there and point a finger at parties, don't ever think of comming back to one.

and while im on this rant, I'd like to publicly denounce you.

The fact that you said you weren't a warmonger makes me laugh to no end. Who ruined a turnchat by screaming "ATTACK THE FRENCH SETTLER! WAR WAR WAR!". surely you recall that. sounds like a peaceloving person. i'm suprised you weren't in the DIA.

That little fiasco was caused a huge dent in your public image, of public opinion of you, of public opion OF THE PARTY (UFC), and to make matters worse, it was before an election where you were running for the UFC.

Most of the UFC (if not all) were completely shocked at your attitude / actions during the turnchat, and there was even quiet discussion of replacing you as our candidate, and even talks of removign you from the party entirely, because simply, you (or at least your online persona) are an ass.

you made the party look bad, and now you sit there and talk down at the party system as a whole. good job.

[Kuciwalker]

No, I don't want an advertisement. I don't want to champion ideals. I don't want anyone in this party who doesn't join because they actually think this way.

[UnOrthOdOx]

I was thinking of a letter to the editor voicing your opinion on parties and thier destructive nature. You will see the party section isas neutral as possible as well, no advertisements.

[Kuciwalker]

Uber -

I'm trying to fix my mistakes. You are blasting me for it. That's your right, but I disagree with your opinions.

Unorthodox -

Possibly next edition. I'll have to think about it.

[Duddha]

Traitor! No one crosses the Hawk party! I hope your party actually becomes a real party. Damn the two party system, its so boring.

[Ninot]

this is the second time Skywalker has withdrawn membership for a party.

But an independant party IS an oxy moron.

[Flip McWho]

screaming "ATTACK THE FRENCH SETTLER! WAR WAR WAR!".

i'm sorry this is actually quite funny.

i supppose i shouldn't encourage though.

and no ones forcing people to vote along party lines in any way.

how can they neway. hack ur computer if u don't they don't even know who ur've voted for.

(i made chieftain)(yay for me)

[Ninot]

this reminds me of the Planet Neutral from an episode of Futurama (dont ask me why).. and a great quote just before the planet is going to explode....

"Tell my wife I said... hello"

[Epistax]

I then propose the Independent Extremists Party. We are way off either way, and absolutely hate the guys in the middle. Liberty or death, Slavery or death, either way, join the party! [/sarcasm]