Election: Minister of Imperial Expansion

[Kramerman]

Originally posted by skywalker


No

No

[Kramerman]

edit: added mor heads for artistic reasons.

[ThePlagueRat]

This was one helluva cool election-thread!
First, everyone says: "Vote for Sir Ralph".
Then skywalker freaks out, followed by tass, and the rest going bananas. One by one...
And the most spectacular of it all: I haven't even voted yet!
Hmm...


Ralph: Sir? As not being a member of a party, would a membership of the independent Thinkers Guild suit you as an independent individual?

[Kramerman]

ThePlagueRat eh? Are you the one who infected my mother with Bubonic? cause if you are that son of a *****, Im gonna kick your ass!

Kman
[nothing personal, The plague has just wiped out half my family back in the gehttos of Apolytonia where I live, Im just venting some steam]

[Will 5001]

is there really a point?

No

[ThePlagueRat]

Originally posted by Kramerman
ThePlagueRat eh? Are you the one who infected my mother with Bubonic? cause if you are that son of a *****, Im gonna kick your ass!

No I'm innocent! I only use Black Death.
(like we did in Bergen, 1349AD)

Oh yeah, I usually hide in a cargo hold on a caravel.
When I disembark, the big cat eat me up. Saying "You look like food". He gets infected and goes home to the owners, who pet him, and get black spots on their faces... Then we all die.
Well, I have been reincarnated, no worries.

[Will 5001]

Sorry, but bubonic plague IS the black death!!

[Kramerman]

If I find you, you bastard I'll kill you! Ah, whats the point, you will only reincarnate (respawn, as us 1st person shooters like to call it!). Besides, your bloody body would probably just infect me with plague and I would probably spread it to my fellow slum dwellers in the ghetto and kill us all.

[Harovan]

Originally posted by ThePlagueRat
Ralph: Sir? As not being a member of a party, would a membership of the independent Thinkers Guild suit you as an independent individual?

The Thinkers Guild is an interesting citizen group. But don't you consider me too much of a warmonger for it? The other members might complain.

[Chandragupta]

Wow, i was going to say something like, go independents! vote Sir Ralph! But that'd be kind of useless at this point. Anyway, in response to Ralph on the thinker's guild (which i'm in): Civ is about fun, fun usually comes when you win, the way this game is set up right now, winning comes by beating down other civs. Therefore it follows that the fundamental nature of Civ demands warmongering leaders for Apolyton. Logic says: vote Sir Ralph.

(logic being like thinking... i guess...)

[Edrix]

I've got a question for the future Minister (whoever it may be). What do you think of the City of Iron idea? It's this thread. Should we build over in the jungle? I don't think it would really be much different than our current cities.

EDIT: Er, what does everyone think? Current minister? Candidates? Anyone?

[Harovan]

The next settler will build the Blue city. After it, Case Pink/Plan Eagle will be unleashed. And only after this, the next 2 settlers can be built. The attacking army will, no doubt, uncover the black spots on the map and check, if America has indeed no iron. If so, one of the next settlers should secure the jungle iron. If not (America has iron and we're able to get it), time does not press so much, although I'd say we secure a second source, since one might deplete. This might be either the iron in the jungle, or the one in the French mountains (if we can settle there, that is). We should discover more of the map, before we meet this decision.

[Will 5001]

As I have said before with the dyes I dont think that we should build in inhospitible terrian, however fi the public works minister and the president would rather have a city and the jungle cleared (taking a long time) instead of a colony, which we could expand our borders towards later, I will build a city there. But I would rather have a colony there and expand towards later!

[Will 5001]

Where are you Jonny? I haven't seen you since way back on the first page !!!

Therefore it follows that the fundamental nature of Civ demands warmongering leaders for Apolyton. Logic says: vote Sir Ralph.

And the UFC doesn't supoport violence I guess??!!!!

[Harovan]

Originally posted by Will 5001
As I have said before with the dyes I dont think that we should build in inhospitible terrian, however fi the public works minister and the president would rather have a city and the jungle cleared (taking a long time) instead of a colony, which we could expand our borders towards later, I will build a city there. But I would rather have a colony there and expand towards later!

You have a point with no doubt, this empire needs productive cities. And I'm strongly against sending the next settler to the iron, because we need another productive city (The Blue City).

However, when it comes to resources and there is no alternative in better land (pray, that the Americans have iron), we have to secure them, or the AI civs will. I do not like colonies much and see them as very rare exception. Mainly because they do not hinder the AI civs to steal the resource by plopping a city nearby, especially when it's so far away like the jungle iron. And we still would have to connect it with a long road through the jungle.

Let's first discover the map a bit more, before we meet decisions. We've got a bit time for a good decision, until the settlers will be built, so no need for speculations now. The gods gave us horses, and who has horses, can gain access to iron too, by force.

As a sidenote: If the Americans have no other iron, I would be not surprised, if they plopp a city in the jungle even before our attack starts. In this case, we would probably be enforced to raze it, because it will grow slowly in the poor terrain and it's unlikely, that it reaches size 2 very soon, so that it can be taken.