Amendment: Code of Ethics

[Aggie]

In my opinion this is simply an opinion poll since this isn't really approving an amendment, it is just asking should we even try to make one on ethics. This amendment would still have to pass by a 2/3 vote.
Still i vote no, since in the end the ballot box will enforce the ethics/desires of the people and this would just be an artificial burden on the game.

[HazieDaVampire]

no Ethics yet, we are not modern!

[MrWhereItsAt]

The poll has spoken: it's time to think up your ethics!

[notyoueither]

OK. Kill or be killed.

BTW. The Yes side did not gain 67%. Therefore ethics, both yours and mine, will remain a private matter.

[MrWhereItsAt]

Hmm. I thought that this was not an official adding to the Constitution poll (due to the fact we haven't even proposed any ethics to add to that document), but was more a "should we get the Ministers to take the idea seriously?" type poll.

This passed, so we should think about some ideas in specific to vote on , and it is these that would need 67% to pass.

[notyoueither]

OK. I propose 'Kill or be Killed.' It will pass by 67% I think.

But, the question said Should we have a Code of Ethics added to our Constitution?. That question did not receive 67%. Therefore I think it is rather presumptuous to go ahead and begin formulating specific ethical proposals, since the people have already declined to adopt the concept.

[MrWhereItsAt]

That is very likley, NYE. But we can't presume what will and will not be accepted witout specific polls for that nature. Perhaps 20% of the voters here thought "code of ethics" meant absolutely no slavery, razing, firste strikes etc. etc. This is but one possible code of ethics open to us, and without more detailed polls and discussion, all we can conclude from this poll is that a straight out majority of voters currently like the idea of adding SOME ethics to our Constitution.

[notyoueither]

However, not enough to add the concept to the constitution.

I feel for you. I have had my ideas of ideal institutions shot down in these courts of the public before. It behooves us to accept the verdict... until a day that things are different.

The day will come when we are no longer the weaker civ. The day will come when Apolytonians stride the world safe in the cloak of citizenship in the great republic that we may become. That day is not now though.

Today, we eat or we are eaten. We use every dirty trick and advantage that we can come by. We grow or we die. Anything that detracts from our eating and growing is not good.

[notyoueither]

In short. Ethics are for those who can afford them. We cannot.

[MrWhereItsAt]

Fine arguments. If only we can have a proper discussion thread prior to a more specific amendments poll!

And we certainly cannot ignore the majority decision of this poll - I would LOVE to hear what some Ministers have to say, especially Trip and Timeline.

[GoodFella]

Majority or not, this poll was to determine whether or not to add an ethics amendment, thus the 2/3 (which yes didn't get) applies, which means no code of ethics within the government structure..

Like many have said before, ethics will best remain a personal matter in poll votes.

[jdjdjd]

It is ashame that over 100 citizens (well over half) did not even vote.

[MrWhereItsAt]

I really don't think that this idea got the publicity it should have to be considered a serious issue - there may well have been more voters, and voting differently, if there was a priority attached to the idea in the first place, instead of just one prior thread (although a truly good read of a thread).

[Robber Baron]

Not enough publicity?
Judging by the level of discussion, this issue has received a thorough airing out. It's been on the front page of the forums consistently, and received input from all kinds of folks (not just the core posters).

[Aggie]

Mrwhereitsat you are always more than welcome to propose any amendment you desire to our constitution.
To quote our constitution

Amendments:
Amendments to this Constitution can be submitted by any member of our nation. An amendment is passed and made official by a 2/3 or greater vote on the amendment's inclusion.

so if you have a specific ethics amendment by all means propose and I am sure all of us here will give it a fair hearing. Its very possible that the votes will be there to pass it, that were not there for the more general idea.
Good luck
Aggie