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  • Unofficial Poll: What Advance Should We Research Next?

    (This poll expires in five days. Current date is Thrusday, Jine 20 at 1:35 AM US Mountain Time)

    Just wondering what the people are wanting at this current moment.

    We are currently researching "Bronze Working", which should be done in about 22 turns. After which, we will get the Spearman unit which has 2 defense, one offense, one movement.

    I recommend researching Alphabet. Although having no benifits in itself, Alphabet opens the door for both Mathematics and Writing. Although Mathematics provides some benifits (the catipult, and opens the door for currency and is required for construction) writing is truely a gem. Not only does it open the door for Literature, Code of Laws, Philosophy, and Map Making, it allows us to establish embassies with other countries which is required for making certain treaties (which come up later).

    UberKrux and Apocalypse also had a suggestion: The Wheel. At first I was completly against it, but after sitting down and thinking about it, it actually may be a viable option. It provides us with the horsemen, a powerful fast attacking unit with a 2 attack, 1 defense, 2 movement rating. This would certainly be benefical to our military counquests which will no doubt be required during a war. However, there is a downside: This unit requires the horses strategic resource. Horses do not appear in jungle so therefore there is a small chance that we will NOT have horses. But again, there is a chance of it and if there are horses near us, we will gain access to a powerful unit. An arguement for this is that there is always a strategic resource near you. But, I still stand by Alphabet. However, this is my second most recommended option.

    There is also another advance for warmongers. Iron Working would allow us access to the swordsmen which cannot be upgraded, however, it has a 3.2.1 Attack/Defense/Movement. This would allow us to defend our cities and launch attacks against other Civilizations. However again, there is a chance that we do not have access to the iron strategic resource. In my games, there is less of a chance of Iron appearing than there is horsemen. A big gamble with this advance, however, it does open the door to construction.

    Pottery I strongly recommend against because the benefits of this advance are very questionable. The Granary, while improving growth, will open up unhappiness problems which we may not want or be able to deal with at this time. It does allow us to research Map Making (if writing has already been researched) however it's benefits are questionable as well. Map Making is almost useless if were not on an island, however, depending on our position the harbor city improvement could be useful.

    Warrior Code is another advance I am not fond of researching because the Archer simply does not have enough benefits to research it. Yes, it does have a 2.1.1 A/D/M, but compared to the War Chariot's 2.1.2....This should be put off for last. It opens the door for Monarchy and Horseback Riding.

    Mysticism allows us to build the Oracle. This (I believe) doubles the effect of temples in all cities. This would take care of unhappiness problems although that's the only benefit it has. It's next advance, Polytheism, provides nothing but is required for Monarchy, the first (out of two) warmongering governments.

    Remember that because this decision is very far away, this poll is unofficial and has no bearing on what we will research next. Just wanting the peoples opinion in order to formulate my plans.
    66
    Iron Working (Swordsmen)
    9.09%
    6
    Alphabet (Required for Mathematics and Writing)
    33.33%
    22
    Pottery (Granaries) (Required for Map Making)
    7.58%
    5
    The Wheel (War Chariot) (Required for Horseback Riding)
    24.24%
    16
    Warrior Code (Archers) (Required for Horseback Riding, Monarchy)
    9.09%
    6
    Mysticism (The Oracle) (Required for Polytheism)
    0.00%
    0
    Banana (Abstain)
    16.67%
    11

    The poll is expired.

    Last edited by Nubclear; June 20, 2002, 03:42.
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  • #2
    I suggest we make the decision in 20 turns when we know what lays on the other side of the banana expanse.

    If it is coast. MAP MAKING NOW!

    If it is good land, the Wheel.
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    • #3
      If it is good land then coast...
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      • #4
        Warrior code, if it's good land. The Wheel (War Chariots) would need a road through the whole jungle, which takes looong even as industrious civ. For Horseback Riding (Horsemen are jungle going, unlike WC's) we would need both Warrior code and The Wheel, so if we discover Warrior code first, we'd have a jungle-going and non resource depending attacker meanwhile.

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        • #5
          Unless we jump.
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          • #6
            To those of you whom are voting for pottery: Can you at least tell us why? I'm confused as to why anyone would vote pottery unless they wanted to get to Map Making faster.
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            • #7
              KruX will croak when he sees this. I am right now.
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              • #8
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                • #9
                  I vote Iron Working. With our UU out of action due to all the jungle, swordsmen are our next best bet in terms of offensive warfare. With swordsmen we can defend our empire plus blackmail rival civs into giving us maps, money and technology (just before we throw them onto the trash heap of history).

                  Alphabet would be my second choice: it opens the way to a number of scientific advances. But if we research iron working (and hopefully get lucky enough to find a nearby iron deposit) we might be able to quickly blackmail alphabet out of a rival. That's the advantage of IW: it takes awhile to develop, but once you've got it you can use it to get caught up in the tech race.
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                  • #10
                    In spite of the minister's recommendations, I voted for pottery because the growth benefits of the granary will allow us to produce more workers and settlers faster. This will aid our early expansion, which will in turn help us get the other techs sooner.

                    However, I will also support alphabet.
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                    • #11
                      How many who have voted have played emporer?

                      Sorry to be elitist, but...

                      This ain't civ 2.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by notyoueither
                        How many who have voted have played emporer?

                        Sorry to be elitist, but...

                        This ain't civ 2.
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                        • #13
                          I strongly recommand we use this vote as a reference for our tech planning, rather than the others. It's the one which gives all choices, and whose question and answers aren't rigged at all. This poll is undoubtedly the most democratic one on the issue.
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                          • #14
                            Please, do not tie Tass to the outcome.

                            First of all. We do not yet know enough to make a good decision. Another 10 turns are required (or so).

                            We are all running off half cocked, because none of us can wait for the next turns.

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                            • #15
                              I haven't played Emperor... But how come?
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