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    Should the SMC have control over captured cities?

    should the SMC be allowed to rule the captured cities for a few turns, to quickly rebuild his military on the spot, control resistance, etc? for how long?

    you have 2 days to vote.

    this POLL brought to you by supreme military commander UberKruX. Glory Comes From Spilt Blood.

    44
    Yes. for 20 turns.
    4.55%
    2
    Yes. for 10 turns.
    2.27%
    1
    Yes. for 5 turns.
    4.55%
    2
    Yes. for 10 turns AFTER resistance ends.
    18.18%
    8
    Yes.for 5 turns AFTER resistance ends
    27.27%
    12
    No. never.
    43.18%
    19

    The poll is expired.

    Last edited by Inverse Icarus; June 19, 2002, 00:28.
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  • #2
    oh, and for curious kiddies, i voted for "Yes for 10 turns after resistance ends". some resistances can last a good deal of time if you dont have 20 units squatting in the city.

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    • #3
      Uber, as SMC can you give an idea of how many military units are required to suppress a city flip?

      Like how many per pop or any formulas?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Timeline
        Uber, as SMC can you give an idea of how many military units are required to suppress a city flip?

        Like how many per pop or any formulas?
        i dont have any official forumlas or anything, but i usually have AT LEAST a 1:2 unit to population ratio.

        if the enemy has a higher culture than us, or the city was a large, high cultured one, i would definately station more units there. my stomach flips whenever a city flips back and i lose my 10 or so units garrisioning it.

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        • #5
          Change all pop to tax collectors. More cash, starve.

          New turn. Change all pop to tax collectors. More cash, starve.

          New turn. Change all pop to tax collectors. More cash, starve.

          and so on until 1 pop is reached.

          I have never lost a city to a flip while at war since I started doing this, and almost never at peace since 2 units give a 2 to 1 ratio to the remaining natives.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by notyoueither
            Change all pop to tax collectors. More cash, starve.

            New turn. Change all pop to tax collectors. More cash, starve.

            New turn. Change all pop to tax collectors. More cash, starve.

            and so on until 1 pop is reached.

            I have never lost a city to a flip while at war since I started doing this, and almost never at peace since 2 units give a 2 to 1 ratio to the remaining natives.
            exactly why i wanted to command cities. i'm pretty sure the "panzie ass cultural comission" as i cal them wont stand for starving / pop rushing a city to a 1
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            • #7
              Well, thanks for revealing your true motives, Mr. Genocidal Maniac...

              (-and you're damned right we won't stand for it... )
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              • #8
                Why not?

                If the new subjects do not welcome us as liberators, why not clear out some room for Apolytonians?
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by notyoueither
                  Why not?

                  If the new subjects do not welcome us as liberators, why not clear out some room for Apolytonians?

                  ...and if we ever have a domestic problem, why not nuke ourselves off the face of the planet?
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                  • #10
                    No! Don't you trust the city planner?? And if the city is worthless (very little production and trade) what use it it to you?

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                    • #11
                      I like the starving idea. Though I like culture, this seems to be a good method of accomplishing what needs to be done.
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                      • #12
                        As the one responsible of happiness, it is the city planner's job.
                        The job of the military advisor would be to move his units in his newly captured cities, so that they resplenish health, and to petition the city planner to build units in the core cities. That's called teamwork, and that's the core of the Democracy Game.
                        There is no reason the military advisor has any direct control over cities... Do you imagine the science minister having direct control over some units ?
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                        • #13
                          hi ,

                          there should have been an other option in the poll ,
                          control until resistance has ended , ....

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by UberKruX
                            exactly why i wanted to command cities. i'm pretty sure the "panzie ass cultural comission" as i cal them wont stand for starving / pop rushing a city to a 1
                            Though I have disagreed with you in the past Uber, I find myself agreeing here. Bleeding a captured city dry works wonders (no pun intended) when you're trying to force its population back into line. In real life it works better to make the people love you by pampering them, but civ aint real life! Besides, if for some reason we cede the city back to them, it would be nothing more than a charred crater.

                            I'm voting for 5 turns after resistance ends.
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                            • #15
                              in times of war, the SMC should have control over captured cities for short periods of time. i vote yes, 10 turns after resistance ends. the hawk party backs uber on this one.

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