Foreign Advisor Campaign Thread

[Ninot]

This thread is created solely for the campaigning of Foreign Advisor candidates. Feel free to post questions for the candidates.

[MrWhereItsAt]

What are your priorities in the early game?
How do you propose you achieve these?
What will these do for us?

[civman2000]

Should we be warmongering (in general) or more peaceful (in general)? That's the central question, I wasn't there but I've heard there was a poll on it at the beginning of the civ2 game...

[civman2000]

Should we take out neigboring civs to get them out of our way/eliminate them if we dont have restarting, or should we just do that to one or two to get iron or hoses and a bit of space and leave the rest alone for awhile, or even have no early wars (not a real option IMHO)?

[Ninot]

(i found out people are posting before i could get this out, so please excuse me if i didnt adress anything asked with this post)
Good day fellow Apolytonians. Our nation is a strong one, and we must be represented well on an international level. I am presenting myself as a candidate for the role of Foreign Advisor to the President and head of the Ministry of International Diplomacy (MID) for yours to choose and aprove.

The Foreign Ministry should be first and foremost the window of our nation to the global community. And naturally, the MID should be our nation's tool to interact with this community. So, naturally, as Foreign Minister, I promiss to obey the wishes of our country's populace, and carry out the goals of our people.

As a civilized people, it should only be natural that we present ourselves accordingly. And for that point, I will state that if I should be elected as your Foreign Minister, I will do everything within my power to ensure we have propper and cordial relationships with our global neighbors.

However, if any other peoples of our world are in need of civilization, i whole heartily promiss that, with coordination with the Military Advisor and Science Advisor, I will ensure we have the propper means of taking care of those neighbors, and the propper aid as well, if neccesary.

But there is aid, and then there is subordination, which I will not allow beyond reasonability. If another nation does decide to make outrageous claims of our soverein nation, their requests will be denied while I am in power. Our nation will not be made to service others.

So if you were to vote for Ninot as your Forein Minister, you would be voting for a civilized way of international diplomacy, and a guarantee for diplomatic balance for my term in office.

Thank you for your time.

[Ninot]

IMHO, we should ensure some military prominance early on. I think it is vital that we ensure us becoming a superpower by the middle ages... and thus, getting rid of any obstacles to that in the early game. Honestly, i hope to death we start with a source of Iron and horses, but if we don't, i would make it a priority we gain them in trade by all means neccesary, and then ensure sources while we have them.

So, yeah, what I am saying is, we SHOULD be leaning more towards warmongering in the beginning. I would guess at the least having 1 war in the ancient age (or in my term.. depending).

I would advise war definately for resources, and less so for teritory. I would only advise teritory war if we were becoming a minor power with no place to go. If we were already the biggest on our block... then i would probably try and keep things peaceful.

Oh, and something i didn't think i made clear or even mentioned:

I will most definately advise heavily against all propositions of breaking treaties of trade or peace (like the kind ya get after a war, with the 20 turn limit on them). I dont want nations disliking us for the rest of time because we couldn't wait to conquer a city for spices.

[Jon Shafer]

What is your opinion on giving into the demands of other civs? I hate nothing more than to be insulted by another country as they ask for the toils of our empire to supply them! Should we crush them at such insolence, or have pity upon them and spare them until we can stamp them out on our own terms?

[Ninot]

Trip, in response, I would say to deny their terms, and if they do not like our response, then yes, to crush them and humiliate them. Demands must not be made on our sovereign nation. However, I would not crush them if they do not have the guts to actually back up their demands. In stead, i might return tribute as a reply. And if they don't like that, then i might consider war a viable option. We can't leave them thinking they can talk to us fouly and not let us return the favor if we wish.

[Ninot]

Last night during chats, a question came up about tributes, and I had a slightly more extensive reply (ok, you got me, this is a bump.. but an informative one!)

If a nation demands a tribute of us, and we feel we must give into the request, or if they feel they should not prosecute us for remaining defiant.. then it would be my goal for some kind of revenge in any case. I would not have any nation able to say they took advantage of us without reprocussions.

[Captain]

Candidate Ninot,

Our interest group is pleased to see an early warmongering expansion in the plans, followed by reduced aggression once dominance is achieved. However, we still have a few questions:

What are your views on the use of MPPs?

What are your views on trade?

[Turambar]

I too wish to present myself as a candidate for the position of Foreign Advisor.

The position of Foreign Advisor is very important one for the success of our nation and therefore must be treated as such. If I am elected into office then I promise to work closely with my fellow ministers as co-operation within our nations ruling high council will be the key to our success. As this nation is a democratic one I also promise to listen to and carry out the wishes of the people.

I believe my most important role will be that of representing our nations best interests when dealing with foreign civilisations and to get what our nation wants and needs from them.

As to the question of whether we should be a warmongering or peaceful nation early on I think we should lean towards warmongering early on in order to gain any resources needed and to secure our nations position within the world. Any decision taken in this area will need to be taken with the advice of other ministers and of course the consent of the people.

If another civilisation demands a tribute from us and the pose a credible threat then I'd recommend giving in to demand (prviding it is within reason) because I'd rather we started war on our own terms than on that of someone else. Of course any nation we do give tribute will have to suffer in the end when we are prepared to do so.

I think we need to exploit foreign nations when possible to get what we need from them, and when we have no further need for them destroy them. I call this policy "You scratch my back I'll stab yours"

[Inverse Icarus]

However, if any other peoples of our world are in need of civilization, i whole heartily promiss that, with coordination with the Military Advisor and Science Advisor, I will ensure we have the propper means of taking care of those neighbors, and the propper aid as well, if neccesary.

explain.

[Inverse Icarus]

Originally posted by Ninot

If a nation demands a tribute of us, and we feel we must give into the request, or if they feel they should not prosecute us for remaining defiant.. then it would be my goal for some kind of revenge in any case. I would not have any nation able to say they took advantage of us without reprocussions.

do you mean, if a nation demanded gold, and we assume we're in no position to immediately defned ourselves, you'll cave?

who's running against you?

[Turambar]

I'm running against him. Read my last post .

[Ninot]

Ok, in response to Uber's "explain" question, what I am saying is i cant deny the fact that we will be going to war in the early years, unless we have a totally peaceful president, or something along those lines. But from what I have seen, the sentiment seems to lean towards an early war.

Originally posted by UberKruX


do you mean, if a nation demanded gold, and we assume we're in no position to immediately defned ourselves, you'll cave?

who's running against you?

as my counterpart stated, i would only give into a request if we are in bad shape. But, what I intended to say here, and I'm not quite sure you caught it, was that no matter if we give in or not, any nation cocky enough to demand tribute from us will pay dearly.