First Turn Chat of the New Year

[BigFree]

I would like to hold a turn chat at 0200 GMT Saturday 17 January. For the US this is 2100 EST Friday 16 January. For those that need to figure out what time it is for you at 0200 GMT please visit this site:

http://www.worldtimezone.com/datetime.htm

GMT is the line labled 0

For example, EST is GMT -5

We will start at the above time in the #civ3dem room of the Apolyton.net IRC server. I plan to be available for 2-3 hours to continue our quest of conquering the World.

[Jonny]

Re: First Turn Chat of the New Year

Originally posted by BigFree
I would like to hold a turn chat at 1000 GMT Friday 16 January. For the US this is 2100 EST. For those that need to figure out what time it is for you at 1000 GMT please visit this site:

That doesn't seem to add up... 1000 GMT would be 0500 EST, wouldn't it?

[BigFree]

Doh! Sorry. You are correct. Must have been sleepier than I thought I was last night.

The correct time is 0200 GMT. Since EST is GMT-5 that gives us 2100=0200 -5hours. Which if we count backwards 5 hours from 0200 like this: 0100(1), 2400(2), 2300(3), 2200(4), 2100(5)! Or you can count forward from 2100, 5 hours as well. You just have to rmeber which way to count. If you local time is GMT-? then you can count forward the number of hours from you local time to find out what time it is in GMT by using the (-)factor for your time zone. If you are GMT+? then you can count backwards the number of hours you are away from GMT by that (+)factor.

I have edited the first post to correctly indicate what time the chat will be. Thanks for pointing this out. Hopefully I get more people to show up with the correct times posted.

[Paddy]

Hi BigFree,

I am glad you are getting a chat happening this weekend.

Unfortunately I will just be finishing work when you are finishing the chat...

Well that is if my calculations are correct:

You are GMT -5

I am GMT +11

so your chat at 9pm Friday Night your time, is actually 1pm Staurday afternoon here...

I will be able to monitor the forum, but possibly not the chatroom, re work proceedures etc

[BigFree]

Sorry Paddy.

The next chat will be scheduled a little later perhaps at 0500 GMT (4 PM your time)

I want to rotate the times that we actually hold chats and play the turns so that we can get everyone a chance to get involved. Tell your moms, dads, brothers and sisters!

[Paddy]

Thanks mate... trying to talk the boss into letting me do it, but then something about being at work to work.... negotiations continue

[BigFree]

Two hours to go!

Channel is open. Come on in.

Either with the Java chat (you must have a java enabled browser): http://apolyton.net/misc/chat/room.shtml

Type: /join #Civ3Dem

Or with an IRC cllient (mIRC is the one I use):

http://www.mirc.com/get.html

Server: apolyton.net
Port: 6667
Type: /join #Civ3Dem

Here's an easy to follow guide for connecting with an irc client:

http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/47221

IRC=Internet Relay Chat
More info on IRC in general:

http://www.mirc.com/irc.html

[BigFree]

I have to step out for a bit. I will be back in the chat channel at ~15-20 minutes after the scheduled chat time.

[BigFree]

Chat is right now. Not too many people in there though.

[Paddy]

Hope some people have shown up to assist you. I am hame in another hour or two, and looking forward to hearing about it all.

[BigFree]

We are on turn 4 right now. Jonny1 and I were the only ones to show. Things are going pretty good. We'll have some screens for you later.

[Paddy]

thanks, hope you both are having fun...

It is terrible to be so close, yet so far all at once

[BigFree]

We have good news! Our Civilization has discovered a new source of Iron!


It appeared right under "Ring of Vikings." That certainly makes things a little better for us. Talk about luck...

One first turn, Egypt and Spain declared peace.

One the second turn Persia discovered Monarchy.
All Civ's wanted 560 gold for Construction.

On the third turn Persia whored Monarchy to Egypt.

We have a settler in "Sapnish are Greedy" that is bording the Galley "Madrid Express" on the next turn. He will be going to settle 1-2-2 from "Raiding Base" on the Southern Island. We have a second settler that is almost completed out of "Ring of Vikings" that will be bording a new Gallye being currently built in "New Asgard." That settler will head for the tile 8-8-9-9 of "New Asgard." That city location is close to the Capitol and thus will not suffer much in terms of corruption. It will also secure, for the future, more sources or Gems so that we can trade. Also, settling directly on top of the Gems gives us the commerce bonus imediately.

The Persians made a small move towards "Bifrost" and "Fields of Gold." It could have been just an attempt to 'explore'; but regardless he was turned back by a 'wall' of Archers led by "Ghengis", "Horror of Sidon" and "Sneaky Pete."

The Galley "Thor's Sickle" will continue it's jouney to investigate the island spotted to our West.

Warrior "BigBadJonny" witnessed the Egyptians setting a town named "Avaris" on the Southern Island to join with the Spainards in trying to make a claim on that land mass. Will "BigBadJonny" sit idly and let that happen? I heard him grumble about someone finding some Iron back home so that we could outfit him with a Sword!

We have Workers in the North clearing jungle and Workers in the South building roads and mines.

Monarchy comes around in 26 turns.
We have 863 gold.

We are Militarily "Weak" to all Civ's. IMO, we need to change this so that we don't appear as an easy target for the AI. With us now having Iron, this won't be to hard to do. The question is do we disconect "Ring of Vikings" and build Warrior and use the gold to upgrade or do we build from scratch and save the gold to buy techs?

I say use the gold for upgrades, attack other Civ's with Swords, then sue for peace and get techs in the process.

Here's a pic of what's going on:


Here's the save Please don't play ahead.

Here's the chat log:

Session Start: Fri Jan 16 15:53:17 2004
Session Ident: #Civ3Dem
[15:53] * Now talking in #Civ3Dem
[15:55] * Retrieving #Civ3Dem modes...
[15:56] * BigFree changes topic to 'Apolyton's SPDG Channel: The Home of the Vikings!'
[17:23] * E_T_sleeping is now known as E_T_doing_stuff
[17:38] * E_T_doing_stuff is now known as E_T
[17:39] * Joins: Jonny1 (~jonny1178@pcp03820475pcs.dksnco01.tn.comcast.net )
[17:41] * E_T is now known as E_T[PBEM]
[17:58] * Parts: E_T[PBEM] (~e_t_1@user35.net810.fl.sprint-hsd.net)
[18:28] * BigFree|Away is now known as BigFree
[18:28] Jonny1 back?
[18:28] BigFree yes
[18:28] BigFree not alot peeps
[18:28] BigFree too bad
[18:28] Jonny1 looks like just the 2 of us
[18:29] BigFree ok
[18:29] BigFree do you think we should play a few turns?
[18:30] Jonny1 yea, a few
[18:30] BigFree ok
[18:31] Jonny1 lets see, is there anything to do before ending the turn?
[18:31] BigFree I'm loaded up
[18:32] BigFree let me take a look around....
[18:34] Jonny1 from what i see, i think we're good to end
[18:34] BigFree I agree.
[18:34] BigFree 4End Turn
[18:35] BigFree Damn, Spain and Egypt decalred peace
[18:35] Jonny1 yep
[18:36] BigFree New Spear needs a name
[18:36] Jonny1 umm, i have no idea...
[18:36] BigFree How about "Jonny Bravo"
[18:36] Jonny1 i like that
[18:36] BigFree
[18:37] Jonny1 and fortify him
[18:37] BigFree cool
[18:38] BigFree I have a thought on expansion
[18:38] BigFree look at the tile 8-8-9-9 from the Cap
[18:38] Jonny1 gems... mmm...
[18:39] BigFree If we bring that Galley we have down South back up we can transport a settler over there
[18:39] Jonny1 but personally i believe we should grab the horses down south first
[18:39] BigFree That Galley also needs a name
[18:39] BigFree Yes, we need those horses as well
[18:40] BigFree Lets make the gems the second city site from now
[18:40] Jonny1 after the horses
[18:40] BigFree right
[18:40] BigFree So, lets build a settler in the Cap then
[18:41] Jonny1 ring of vikings is already building settler... and i'd rather not disrupt that 10 shield/turn production
[18:42] BigFree Butit grows in 3 turns and it's happiness wont last till size 6
[18:42] BigFree ring of vikings needs its WF adjust to a Scientist
[18:43] BigFree then adjust Thors Hammer to work the newly mined grassland
[18:43] Jonny1 ok, that's good... WF 6 of ring of vikings turn into scientist?
[18:44] BigFree yes
[18:44] Jonny1 and sci in thor's works mine 6 3 of thor's, correct
[18:45] BigFree yes
[18:45] BigFree ok, worker actions?
[18:46] Jonny1 hold on a sec... I just realized we already have gems hooked up SW of bilfrost
[18:46] Jonny1 egypt already has 'em too, and we don't want to trade with spain or persia
[18:48] BigFree no, we dont need to trade them, but it's a good city site near the cap with little corruption
[18:49] BigFree brb
[18:51] Jonny1 let's see, the 2 workers 3 3 of Thor's hammer should move 1 to the jungle
[18:51] BigFree back
[18:51] BigFree ok good
[18:52] Jonny1 2 workers 6 3 of thor's hammer should move 7 4 1 to the jungle 1 of Thor's and begin clearing
[18:53] BigFree ok
[18:53] BigFree though they cant begin to clear until next turn
[18:54] Jonny1 true, though that's the case for any jungle square they can reach
[18:54] Jonny1 better to clear it now than later...
[18:55] BigFree right
[18:55] Jonny1 also, worker 7 7 of ring of vikings should move 9 then 8, so that both jungle clearing teams can have 3 workers
[18:56] Jonny1 IMO...
[18:56] BigFree hmm
[18:56] BigFree no, actually the two teams are even now
[18:56] BigFree we have two persians workers
[18:56] BigFree they work only at half speed
[18:57] Jonny1 i know, the set SW of thor's hammer still only has 2 workers, and the set 3 2 of Thor's have 2 nationals and 2 persians
[18:57] Jonny1 or did i move something wrong...
[18:58] BigFree ah, ok, you are right
[18:58] Jonny1 so, move Frosty 9?
[18:58] BigFree y
[18:59] Jonny1 what's next?
[18:59] BigFree 3 mor workers
[19:00] Jonny1 worker SW of Fields of Gold mines the grassland
[19:00] BigFree ok
[19:00] Jonny1 then i am debating whether to clear the forest or not...
[19:01] BigFree i say yes
[19:01] BigFree using both workers
[19:01] Jonny1 sounds good
[19:01] Jonny1 Al Gore begins clearing, BigFurryWorker moves 4
[19:02] BigFree ok, good
[19:03] Jonny1 warrior 2 1 of sidon fortifies? i don't remember if he was going somewhere or not
[19:03] BigFree I think he shoud stay put
[19:04] Jonny1 the archers 6 9 of sidon skip turn as well?
[19:04] BigFree BigBad Jonny moves 1?
[19:04] Jonny1 yes
[19:04] BigFree actaully, fort them
[19:04] BigFree the archers
[19:04] Jonny1 ok, fort the archers
[19:04] BigFree it makes us 'look' stronger to the AI
[19:05] Jonny1 something tells me it wont fool them...
[19:05] BigFree Sinc we are realitively weak to them already we dont want to be too much of a target
[19:05] BigFree If you look at the Militayr advisor, it tells you your relatie strengths to othe Civ's
[19:06] BigFree Fortifying units counts towards that ranking
[19:06] BigFree The game counts all units offensive and defensive numbers to coem up with the rankings.
[19:06] Jonny1 so, it counts the bonuses for fortify/in city/etc. in those rankings as well?
[19:07] BigFree yes
[19:07] Jonny1 didn't know that, i thought it just calculated the base number
[19:07] Jonny1 learn something new every day
[19:07] BigFree dont ask me why, I just know it does from extensive testing
[19:07] BigFree I hapened upon it by accident
[19:08] BigFree I was "weak" towards a civ, then I moved a unit to a mountain tile, then became "average"
[19:08] Jonny1 interesting...
[19:10] BigFree Lets rename the Southern Galley, it has none
[19:10] Jonny1 i wish i had time to play in the ISDG...
[19:10] BigFree You can just join and 'lurk'
[19:10] Jonny1 let's name it Madrid Express
[19:10] BigFree OK
[19:11] Jonny1 and we should move it 9 8 8
[19:11] BigFree ok
[19:11] BigFree Thors Sickle 3-3-3
[19:11] Jonny1 or 2 3 6...
[19:11] BigFree right
[19:12] BigFree or
[19:12] BigFree never mind
[19:12] BigFree 3-2-6 is same
[19:12] Jonny1 yep
[19:12] Jonny1 it's simply a matter of numbers, that's all
[19:13] BigFree sons of Klorrep to Ring of Viking (for happiness)
[19:13] Jonny1 1 2?
[19:14] BigFree sure
[19:15] Jonny1 Sneaky pete moves into Spanish Are Greedy, for happiness?
[19:15] Jonny1 it'll need it in a few turns, anyway
[19:16] BigFree good
[19:16] BigFree Spain wants 560 gold for Construction
[19:17] Jonny1 i just sure would hate for someone to have all that money, since they all have republic and could use it to rush units to fight against us...
[19:17] BigFree Eygypt and Persain want the same
[19:17] BigFree right, lets keep it for now
[19:17] BigFree see anything else?
[19:18] Jonny1 lets see, we did agree on a settler in new asgard, correct?
[19:18] BigFree y
[19:18] Jonny1 ok then, i believe we're done
[19:19] BigFree agreed
[19:20] BigFree 4End turn
[19:20] Jonny1 persians on the move...
[19:21] BigFree shoul we move to protect the wrokers with one archer for each?
[19:21] Jonny1 yes, exactly what i was thinking
[19:21] Jonny1 but the big question: which one where?
[19:22] BigFree
[19:23] BigFree ok, lets do that
[19:23] BigFree Ghengis goes 1 while Horror goes 2
[19:23] BigFree HAHA
[19:23] Jonny1 genghis moves 3, i hope you mean
[19:23] BigFree excuse
[19:23] BigFree ghengis goes 3
[19:23] BigFree
[19:24] Jonny1 that's better
[19:24] Jonny1 and BigFurryWorker begins clearing forest as well
[19:24] BigFree yep
[19:24] BigFree BigBad Jonny moves 1?
[19:24] Jonny1 or 2...
[19:25] Jonny1 unveils one more square
[19:25] BigFree 1 this turn, 32 next
[19:25] BigFree *2 next
[19:25] Jonny1 ok
[19:25] Jonny1 Madrid Express - 8 8 8
[19:25] BigFree right
[19:26] Jonny1 sons of kloreep, 2 4 fortify
[19:26] BigFree 2-2-6 for Thors Sickle
[19:26] BigFree Kloreep, yes
[19:26] Jonny1 do we want to do that for thor's? we could move 2 6 skip, so we only have to spend 1 turn in persian territory
[19:28] BigFree ok
[19:28] BigFree 2-6 then
[19:28] Jonny1 Frosty moves 8
[19:28] BigFree fortify Thors sickle
[19:29] BigFree change WF in Thors hammer from 6 to 3-3
[19:29] Jonny1 yep
[19:32] Jonny1 should we change bilfrost from a worker to a spearman or an archer, since an attack may be coming?...
[19:33] BigFree we dont have to decide yet
[19:34] Jonny1 oh, are we ending at the end of this turn?
[19:34] BigFree maybe one more?
[19:34] Jonny1 1 more, absolutely
[19:34] Jonny1 we should see if the persians attack or not, at least
[19:34] BigFree ok
[19:35] BigFree Should we move Sneaky Pete towards the Persian line?
[19:35] Jonny1 how about 7 4 4?
[19:36] BigFree y
[19:36] Jonny1 so, worker bee, thor's worker, bob's worker 1, galley slave all begin clearing jungle?
[19:36] BigFree yes
[19:36] Jonny1 is that all for this turn?
[19:37] BigFree yes
[19:38] BigFree 4End Turn
[19:39] Jonny1 Thor's Hammer begins galley?
[19:39] BigFree Persians now have Monarchy
[19:39] BigFree Galley sounds good
[19:39] Jonny1 ****, they have monarchy
[19:40] BigFree Lets moves Sons of Lorrep to Bifrost
[19:40] BigFree *kloreep
[19:40] BigFree just in case
[19:40] Jonny1 yes, and sneaky pete should move 8 to the gems
[19:43] BigFree ****. it just crashed on me!
[19:44] BigFree it froze up
[19:44] BigFree good thing its the last turn
[19:45] Jonny1 damn...
[19:45] Jonny1 so, are you reloading to the autosave?
[19:45] BigFree ****
[19:45] BigFree My autosave is not there
[19:45] BigFree I cant figure out why
[19:46] Jonny1 you didn't turn it off in your prefrences, did you?
[19:46] BigFree wait, i found it
[19:46] BigFree I had two folders named Auto
[19:46] Jonny1 odd...
[19:47] Jonny1 lets see, the only thing we had done was move sons of kloreep to bifrost
[19:49] BigFree Ok, I caught back up
[19:49] Jonny1 sneaky pete 8?
[19:50] BigFree yes, to the gems
[19:50] Jonny1 then Genghis Hood and Horror of Sidon can both fortify
[19:52] BigFree right
[19:53] Jonny1 Persian Hatred Committee builds road
[19:53] BigFree then move Madrid express 8-8-8; it'll meet with the Settler from the Cap and go down south to the Horses.
[19:53] BigFree Agreed
[19:53] Jonny1 yep
[19:53] BigFree The settler for the other will go to Gems
[19:53] BigFree With Galley near the Persians
[19:54] BigFree Thors Sickle
[19:54] Jonny1 but i believe Thor's sickle was headed to the island west of ours to explore it
[19:54] BigFree Hmm
[19:55] Jonny1 the capital should be able to build a galley in 4 turns anyway, which would still be quicker than waiting for Thor's sickle
[19:55] BigFree well, we need to move that settler
[19:55] BigFree ok
[19:55] Jonny1 after it completes settler, that is
[19:55] BigFree Ok, it can wait for it then
[19:55] Jonny1 so, Thor's sickle 2 2 6, then 2 2 2 next turn
[19:56] BigFree agreed
[19:56] Jonny1 BigBadJonny 2?
[19:56] BigFree yes
[19:57] Jonny1 frosty begins clearing jungle
[19:57] BigFree yep
[19:57] Jonny1 that's it? that was a pretty quick turn
[19:58] Jonny1 shall we go one more?
[19:58] BigFree hmm
[19:58] BigFree ok
[19:58] BigFree one more
[19:59] Jonny1 which is what we said last time... i feel a bout of one more turn syndrome coming on...
[20:00] BigFree HAHA
[20:00] BigFree One more turn and thats final!
[20:00] Jonny1 Civ3: as addictive as crack, but you only have to buy it once!
[20:00] Jonny1 (what a great deal!)
[20:02] BigFree ok, then, end turn?
[20:02] Jonny1 before we end turn, perhaps we should build an embassy with persia...
[20:03] Jonny1 it could be our last chance
[20:03] Jonny1 we could also then investigate sidon if it's cheap, which might be helpful...?
[20:03] BigFree I dont think we need it at this time, why do you?
[20:03] Jonny1 every bit of information helps, IMHO
[20:04] Jonny1 but you're the boss
[20:06] BigFree
[20:06] BigFree It can wait
[20:06] Jonny1 end turn then?
[20:06] BigFree yes
[20:10] Jonny1 are you still there
[20:11] BigFree yes
[20:11] BigFree I had a phone call
[20:11] BigFree sorry
[20:11] Jonny1 oh
[20:11] BigFree I ended turn and no war.
[20:11] BigFree
[20:11] BigFree They backed off
[20:11] Jonny1 but, did you get the next message?
[20:12] BigFree That Eygypt has Monarchy now
[20:12] Jonny1 no, the next one
[20:12] BigFree The settler is done?
[20:12] Jonny1 i was told that we have discovered a new source of iron
[20:13] Jonny1 it's underneath Ring of Vikings
[20:13] BigFree Nice
[20:19] BigFree ok
[20:20] BigFree Lets move Sneak Pete back to Spanish are Gredy
[20:20] BigFree or at least almost there
[20:20] Jonny1 or, do we move him 4, and then move Sons of Kloreep 1 1 to make a "wall" against the Persians
[20:21] BigFree do we really fear an invasion of Warriors?
[20:21] BigFree We need the ahppiness in Spanish are Greedy
[20:22] Jonny1 ok, right, forgot about that part, so Sneak Pete moves back towards SaG
[20:23] Jonny1 i guess all it can to is 6
[20:23] Jonny1 *do
[20:23] BigFree ok
[20:23] BigFree 6 it is
[20:23] Jonny1 Madrid Express moves 8 8 8
[20:23] BigFree Move madrid Express 4 and fort (to wait for Settler)
[20:24] Jonny1 ok, that's better
[20:24] BigFree that way eahc moves 3 times next turn
[20:24] BigFree ok
[20:25] Jonny1 so the settler in Asgard moves 1 2 2
[20:25] BigFree yes
[20:25] Jonny1 and Asgard's production is changed to a galley
[20:25] BigFree Where are we toput that city? 2-2 of Raiding Base?
[20:25] BigFree right
[20:26] Jonny1 that sounds good
[20:26] BigFree or 1-2 of Raiding Base
[20:26] BigFree right on the Horse
[20:27] BigFree Or 2-2-1
[20:27] Jonny1 or, are the horses still that important now now that we have iron?
[20:27] BigFree I actually like 2-2-1 better
[20:27] BigFree Horses give us Knights
[20:27] Jonny1 2 2 1 is the best of those three
[20:27] BigFree ok
[20:27] BigFree 2-2-1 is it then
[20:28] Jonny1 unless, of course, Jaen's culture grows before then, which would be a serious problem
[20:28] BigFree I doubt it will
[20:28] BigFree If it does, we sack it
[20:28] Jonny1 so, BigBadJonny 2? or 1?
[20:28] BigFree 1
[20:29] Jonny1 1 it is
[20:29] Jonny1 thor's sickle 2 2 2
[20:30] BigFree yep
[20:30] BigFree Change WF in Thors Hammer from 3-6 to 9
[20:31] BigFree or 3-3 same diffenerce
[20:31] Jonny1 wait a second...
[20:32] Jonny1 is it neccesarry to cut shield production in half to get that 1 extra gold
[20:32] Jonny1 ?
[20:32] BigFree it does not lose any shield
[20:33] BigFree we go from 1 waste to none
[20:33] BigFree move WF form 3-6
[20:33] BigFree to 3-3
[20:33] BigFree it puts out 3 shields
[20:35] Jonny1 i think we may have miscommunicated somewhere, because I'm not following...
[20:35] Jonny1 right now, there are WF on 8-7, 3-3, and 3-6 correct?
[20:36] BigFree 8-7, 6, 3-6
[20:37] BigFree that was what I had
[20:37] Jonny1 at the end of the turn before you crashed, you said to change WF in Thors hammer from 6 to 3-3
[20:37] BigFree ok
[20:37] Jonny1 because we needed only 2 shields for the galley
[20:38] BigFree right, but at that setting, now we should have 3 spt with 0 waste
[20:38] BigFree is that what you have now?
[20:38] BigFree spt=shields per turn
[20:38] Jonny1 no, with 8-7, 3-3, 3-6, i'm getting 2 spt
[20:40] BigFree not using 3-6
[20:40] BigFree using 6 instead
[20:41] Jonny1 oh, ok, that gets 3 spt
[20:41] BigFree set WF to 8-7, 6, 3-3
[20:41] BigFree ok
[20:41] BigFree hew:
[20:41] Jonny1 note to self - don't try to micromanage so late at night
[20:42] BigFree haha
[20:42] BigFree ok, lets save it then post it. I will take some screens and post the chat log if you post the save and a short summary of what happened and what our plans are.
[20:43] Jonny1 are we going to move sons of kloreep?
[20:50] BigFree hmm
[20:51] BigFree I wqas thinking he would move woith the settler
[20:51] Jonny1 which one?
[20:52] BigFree the one that is coming form the city he is in
[20:52] BigFree To the gems city
[20:52] Jonny1 he's in bifrost right now, not ring of vikings, so should we move him towards ring of vikings now?
[20:53] BigFree yes
[20:53] Jonny1 he moves 9, along the road
[20:53] Jonny1 but across the river
[20:53] BigFree he was still in RoV in my game
[20:53] BigFree
[20:53] BigFree thatys ok, he has to wait for the galley in Asgard anywyas
[20:54] Jonny1 in the end, it won't make a difference
[20:54] BigFree exaclty
[20:54] Jonny1 let's end this - i'm obviously too tired to play now
[20:54] BigFree damn, which mean you have to take screens because mine is diffeeent, including the Iron.
[20:55] BigFree ok, save turn
[20:55] BigFree then send it to me
[20:55] BigFree I can use it to take a screen and post it as well
[20:55] BigFree bigfree1@comcast.net
[20:56] Jonny1 or i could go ahead and post it on the forum
[20:56] Jonny1 never mind, i'll send it
[21:00] Jonny1 sent...
[21:04] BigFree thanks
[21:08] * Disconnected

I hope to do another chat in the middle of the week sometime. I need some suggestions for a time so that we can get more participants.

[Paddy]

Thanks for this BigFree and Jonny1, excellent work.

Iron, we are blessed from the Halls of Valhalla and beyond.

[MrWhereItsAt]

Originally posted by BigFree
We have good news! Our Civilization has discovered a new source of Iron!


It appeared right under "Ring of Vikings." That certainly makes things a little better for us. Talk about luck...

Very very good news! I am saddened I could not make it, but for some reason I believed it was going to be about 8 hours from now. Perhaps that is just cos that is when I am used to having chats...

If it appeared beneath us then someone else lost some Iron - do all our neighbours still have Iron? you could check by right-clicking on the Iron tiles we knew of some time ago and seeing if the resource values have dropped to those expected for the terrain without Iron.

The original plan for a couple of the Archers near Spanish are Greedy was to travel to the Barb island to our East and kill them for some gold and training. This should be kept in mind if there were no more urgent matters for them to attend to.

And, you do mean that unknown island we spotted to our West, don't you? Or is there a new one?

We need to think twice vefore instantly building Warrios for upgrade/Swords. They will be instantly useful, but we hope to build a force of Archers to upgrade to Berzerks one day too. We should temper our desire to survive and expand now with the potential of Archers later on. however, some Swords will be very useful.

A good start by the sound of things. I hope to be in chat for the next time (timezones willing )