Restart our Democracy game?

[BigFurryMonster]

I understand it that way, too, however, some people have been starting plans for a MiniGame in this thread. This is good for those who want to play such a game, but should not be confused with the decision to start the game over or not.

[GhengisFarbâ„¢]

Yes it should because it is a proposal to start the game over, or have you not read this thread and the others?

[BigFurryMonster]

I have. I just think that we should make a decision about the main game first, and later consider spin-off games. I view this thread doing the former.

[Master Zen]

Defninitely a new game nothing special. It's not about ending what you've begun, it's simply because each turn in the turnchat takes over an hour and frankly some people don't have the time or the patience for it.

[Moonbars]

I play with the Betatester's mod (BTM). This has a lot of the improvements in DyP, but no new buildings, luxuries, etc. I think it would make for a good Demo game, and is not so different from the existing rules that people would be able to get to grips with it fairly easily.

[Master Zen]

I've seen the BTM and it's not badl, perhaps we can combine some of the things in tha mod with the superb AU mod for a real challange.

But pleeease, just keep the thing standard sized!

[Moonbars]

Yes, keeps things standard sized so more of us can actually play the thing!! Has anybody noticed that it can take about 5 minutes for a game to load; with the slider stuck at 34% for most of that at later stages of Huge map games??

[Epistax]

q: Are these load times due to the map size, number of civs, or a combination? If we wanted a lot of expansion for any reason, we could play a larger-than standard with a normal number of players. Just another thought.

[GhengisFarbâ„¢]

I like a Large map with 16 civs. Gives all the AI a chance to establish themselves so WE will get to wipe them out, not the other AI.

[Moonbars]

I have seen maps with less than the "optimal" or "default" number of civilizations produce unfair starting locations - For example civilizations on islands with 2 "empty" locations from the civilizations that are not playing on their landmass - instant unbalancer.

If there was a way for a person to to check the map for this and other problems before we started playing and fix it up?...

[Epistax]

Oh well the solution to that is to have the map specially made again. And then for us not to double the number of civs it's supposed to have hehhe

[GhengisFarbâ„¢]

The larger the map, the more fair the starting postions the generator produces.

[BigFurryMonster]

We'll make a hand-made map again. No worries about unfair start positions.

[Epistax]

I think we can agree that the vote will be YES to restart, however with the number of people voting not to restart, I do not believe this poll should be used to decide how we will restart. I think we should come up with ideas for a new poll on different restart options.

* Succession
* No Succession
* DYP
* No DYP

And etc. In light of the other two demo games going on, we COULD also add if we want this to be mini-game based. This is because we are thinning out the fan base to so many different games. There could even be a vote on whether or not to put this to vote . Perhaps this should be a new topic rather than a reply, and I invite someone to do so.

[Gramphos]

A new game, nothing specail. I just have missed too mush of this game.