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    Wernazuma can you post the list of Viking cities in your X-pack?
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  • #2
    If anyone else can't find some information here in the threads, simply go to http://de.geocities.com/wernazuma/

    Anyway, here they are:
    Trondheim
    Uppsala
    Oslo
    Reykjavik
    Göteborg
    Birka
    Roskilde
    Odense
    Bergen
    Linköping
    Ribe
    Sigtuna
    Lejre
    Jellinge
    Haithabu
    Lund
    Jorvik
    Tonsberg
    Kalmar
    Visby
    Brattahlid
    Gardar
    Hvarf
    Falun
    Torshavn
    Kvivik
    Sandur
    Sandavagur
    Jarlshof
    Veigsfjordur
    Vikingalo
    Hlymrekur
    Dyflinn
    Kaupang
    Stockholm
    København
    Jarrow
    Knared
    Helsingør
    Thingvollur
    Maeshowe
    Thingvellir
    Vedrafjord
    Fyrkat
    Kjönugard
    Holmgard
    Jomsborg
    Nonnebakken
    Lade
    Borg
    L'Anse-aux-Meadows

    Leaders:
    Harald Fairhair
    Leif Eriksson
    Erik Bloodaxe
    Harald Hardrada
    Harald Bluetooth
    Magnus
    Rurik

    As I guess that we stick here with the native names too, we'd need other names for the leaders...
    Last edited by Wernazuma III; August 12, 2002, 17:41.
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    • #3
      Remove Vinland it's not a city but what they called Newfoundland, to my knowledge.

      Helsingor should be Helsingør.

      I would move Oslo a little down the list as it is a rather new name.
      Uppsala, Birka, Roskilde and Ribe up the list as it is some of the oldest cities.
      Add Hedeby to the list, remove Haithabu it's probably the same.

      Jorvik = York, don't change the name, just so you know it.

      Maybe i'll think of some more later.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by Hagbart
        Remove Vinland it's not a city but what they called Newfoundland, to my knowledge.

        Helsingor should be Helsingør.

        I would move Oslo a little down the list as it is a rather new name.
        Uppsala, Birka, Roskilde and Ribe up the list as it is some of the oldest cities.
        Add Hedeby to the list, remove Haithabu it's probably the same.

        Jorvik = York, don't change the name, just so you know it.

        Maybe i'll think of some more later.
        Helsingør changed.
        I'm not sure, but Oslo as Christiana (or so) was important early on too, right? Anyway, I've rearranged the list.

        Why is Hedeby better than Haithabu?
        I knew that about Jorvik.
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        • #5
          I don't know if Hedeby is better than Haithabu. Hedeby is just what the city is called in Denmark (where it was situated).

          Naming Viking cities are complicated, because the language the Vikings spoke is not used today, it has developed into several other close languages (danish, swedish, norwegian, icelandic). Lots of Viking words became also part of the english language. Icelandic is probably the language which is closest to the old Viking language. I can understand swedish and norwegian, but not icelandic.

          But I think the Viking cities should be named what they are called in the country where they where/are situated. As you have done in the list.
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          • #6
            It's just a guess, but I think Haithabu is better. It doesn't sound German, so if it isn't Danish it's probably "Viking". I guess some chroniclers might have written about the site early and thus preserved the original name. This can be totally wrong of course.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Wernazuma III
              It's just a guess, but I think Haithabu is better. It doesn't sound German, so if it isn't Danish it's probably "Viking". I guess some chroniclers might have written about the site early and thus preserved the original name. This can be totally wrong of course.
              Then you decide, I'm not a Viking language expert. Maybe some other people can help.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Hagbart
                I would move Oslo a little down the list as it is a rather new name.
                The name Oslo is at least 1000 years old. But Oslo was called Christiania from 1624 to 1925.
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                • #9
                  One never seizes to learn...
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                  • #10
                    Stockholm was actually founded after the "Viking age".
                    I think København/Copenhagen is relatively new as well.
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                    • #11
                      So, move them down the list?
                      "The world is too small in Vorarlberg". Austrian ex-vice-chancellor Hubert Gorbach in a letter to Alistar [sic] Darling, looking for a job...
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                      • #12
                        They are/were important cities and all, I just don't know if it's right to call them "Viking". Stockholm was founded in the 1250s and Copenhagen in 1167. The Viking age was from about 800 to 1066.
                        So I'd say either move them down the list or remove them.
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                        • #13
                          Göteborg is even newer: 1619!
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                          • #14
                            Since the city names are spelled as they are spelled in their homecountries, should it be the same with the leadernames?

                            Harald Fairhair = Harald Hårfager
                            Leif Eriksson is correct
                            Harald Bluetooth = Harald blåtand

                            Don't know about the rest of them, don't even know which country they're from.. (but if Bloodaxe was swedish it's "Blodyxa")
                            /Cesa

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                            • #15
                              Leif Eriksson is known as Leiv Eiriksson in Norway, and his "Viking" (Old Norse) name is Leifr Eiríksson.

                              Erik Bloodaxe was Norwegian (Eirik Blodøks).
                              Harald Hardrada = Harald Hardråde.

                              It might be easier to just keep the English names, IMO.
                              Last edited by Gangerolf; August 12, 2002, 20:41.
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