The Korean Civilization II

[molly bloom]

Originally posted by King of Rasslin
Look on the food pyramid, duh! I don't see "insects" anywhere. If you eat heavy in carbs, and eat a small amount of fat, you will be healthy. Kangaroo meat isn't available here because we only have the best meat....

and much other uninformed nonsense besides...

I was willing to give you the benefit of the doubt, given that even your fellow Americans' remarks about you have hardly been kind. But yes, you really do have hidden shallows. What is 'best' about American meat? The meat processing industry in America was infamous in the past for including rather odd ingredients (including human beings)- and if you don't believe me, I suggest you do a little research into its history.

And the so=called absence of insects on the food pyramid- well you don't eat guinea pig in North America- and yet in Peru it adds much needed protein to the diet of mountain dwelling people. Similarly, insects (and by the way, Moreton Bay bugs are a species of crustacean) add trace minerals and vitamins to some diets.

You claim (on waht grounds, I know not) that diabetes is 'totally' genetic- your knowledge of medicine and genetics and disease is clearly on a par with your knowledge of history and armour and armaments. All on your own, sir, you are confirming my suspicions about the deficits in the American scholastic system.

[King of Rasslin]

"your knowledge of medicine and genetics and disease is clearly on a par with your knowledge of history and armour and armaments."

I know, I'm absolutely brilliant all around.

I doubt if that story about humans falling into the meat grinder is true. I seriously doubt if they would let humans get into hamburgers. And we have the cleaneset food available today. There are plenty of Europeans on this board that will tell you that you can trust American beef, where you might get mad cow disease with theirs. We don't even allow British beef into our country, you know?

And I have never heard of someone saying "hey, it's your fault you have diabetes because you watch TV all day." I DO hear that "diabetes affects millions of people, and you are not alone. You couldn't prevent it, but you can treat it!" I think it's too cruel to blame people about their weight. Some people will starve themeselves for weeks to lose weight, and then gain twice as much back. It really is probably genetic, the way some people simply cannot lose the fat. You need some compassion for fat people.

Bugs are for the people that cannot get real food. Is the economy really that bad in Australia? I thought they were relatively well off for a Pacific island country. But I might be mistaken, if you are eating kangaroos and bugs. Are the bugs really slimy?

[SubLimey]

The best beef comes from Argentina. No joke. It's way better than anything produced in Europe or America. So's their chicken. I know this from experience. Just because the U.S. hasn't had any major problems like mad cow disease yet, does not mean that US beef is the cleanest. Many countries ban its import because it is pumped full of steroids. Mad cow disease was a result of unnatural farming techniques adopted in order to achieve greater efficiency at lower cost. The US food industry routinely pursues just such objectives, often without doing sufficient testing to fully understand potential dangers, viz. genetically modified crops. Did you know that some of your tomatoes now have frog DNA?

FYI diabetes is not strictly a genetic disorder, it can also be aquired through an unhealthy lifestyle. Oh, and like Molly, I have the blessing of living in a very multicultural city (Toronto), where the cuisine scene has come as a great relief from the British stodge of my upbringing. Kimchee is great.

[King of Rasslin]

I live in rural GA, and the cows here aren't "pumped with steroids." Our cows eat grass and we don't have frog DNA in our tomatoes. And our grocery stores don't have bugs or Korean stuff. Just a good 'ol American southern town. Nothing better.

[Q Classic]

I live in rural GA, and the cows here aren't "pumped with steroids." Our cows eat grass and we don't have frog DNA in our tomatoes. And our grocery stores don't have bugs or Korean stuff. Just a good 'ol American southern town. Nothing better.

man, i'm telling you. just go to athens for like, what, one or two days. you're just one tiny county over.
besides, are you sure that your cows aren't modified? you are right next to UGA, and they do perform a lot of genetic and agricultural experiments...

[siredgar]

King of Rasslin, you are a hick. You need to get a decent education before you engage in a conversation like this.

I was amazed at how you were able to spew more racial stereotypes and general ignorance on the previous thread than I thought was humanly possible. Thanks for ruining a great discussion.

Anyhow, there's a reason why us "Yankees" look down on you Southerners. You're stupid and backward. That's why you lost the war.

If you try to remember this one thing, I'm sure it will improve your life greatly:

"Just because you don't see it, hear it, or smell it, doesn't mean it's not there. It could just be that you're blind, deaf, or lost your sense of smell, you dumb animal."-- S.E.

I hope I phrased it simple enough for your kind of folk to understand.

[molly bloom]

Originally posted by King of Rasslin
I live in rural GA, and the cows here aren't "pumped with steroids." Our cows eat grass and we don't have frog DNA in our tomatoes. And our grocery stores don't have bugs or Korean stuff. Just a good 'ol American southern town. Nothing better.

I think (at the risk of seeming xenophobic) this explains a lot...

Do they have a decent library in your town, or do you get your facts from the T.V. Guide at the Wal-Mart outlet?

Bovine somatotropin is regularly used in American meat farming, for instance:

http://www.purefood.org/ge/badspud.cfm

http://www.organicconsumers.org/rbghlink.html

As for diabetes being 'totally genetic'- what, some genetic trigger only kicked in, in Aboriginals/Koori and Pacific Islanders, when Europeans turned up to colonize?

http://www.diabetes.org/

Check the site out- it's American, so presumably in your eyes, more trustworthy.

As for the American meatpacking scandals-

http://www.organicconsumers.org/toxic/brutalmeat.cfm

http://www.gctelegram.com/news/2001/June/15/meatpackingevolves.html

it would seem that a new Upton Sinclair is called for.

I don't know why you associate kangaroo flesh and emu meat with poverty- ignorance, I imagine.

[King of Rasslin]

I'm not ignorant! On my grandparent's old farm we didn't use steroids in the cows! We didn't use pesticide or herbicide. It's just the same people around here, and they would never mess up their cows with UGA chemicals.

And you Yankees are asking for it if you say we are ignorant. We feed you, you know that? Yeah, that sausage you are eating right know comes from us. Another year or two on the civil war would have starved you out, but you guys had more than a little luck on your sides. Hey, a spearman can beat a tank, so I guess you guys could have beaten us! Besides, the best US soldiers today are southern guys, not the idiots that watch "The Real World" and think they own the world. I can beat up any one of you. If NY wasn't here, then people would have a better view of America and stop sending airplanes at us!

[King of Rasslin]

And, by the way, Q Cubed, I was just wondering... Do you eat dogs in Korea? I heard that authentic Asian food often involves animals very unfamiliar to us or animals that we do not consume. Horses, dogs, squid, etc.

What does dog taste like? And what is chop suey? I'm getting hungry now, so I could eat anything.

Maybe I'l go to McDonalds.

[sabrewolf]

Originally posted by King of Rasslin
And, by the way, Q Cubed, I was just wondering... Do you eat dogs in Korea? I heard that authentic Asian food often involves animals very unfamiliar to us or animals that we do not consume. Horses, dogs, squid, etc.

horses are also eaten in europe... and in the states. not as common as pork or beef, but still.

[molly bloom]

"I'm not ignorant! "- K. o. R.

Best laugh of the day!

Of course, what K.o R. fails to realize is that food consumption all over the world is hemmed in and restricted by customary usage, religious taboo and misplaced sentiment. My mther-in-law won't eat wallaby or kangaroo (for sentimental reasons) and yet won't apply the same sentiment to the woolly ball of bouncing fluff, that used to be sweet fleshed Welsh lamb, and is now a rack of lamb on a roasting tray.

Similarly if you are an observant Muslim or Jew, you won't eat pig flesh, or certain kinds of fish or crustacean, or some ruminant animals. I haven't tasted dog yet, but I don't believe we have the right to determine what Koreans eat or don't eat, simply because of misplaced Western sentiment towards dogs. And I certainly don't believe in belittling other people's diets out of some strange notion that my diet is superior.

[Q Classic]

And, by the way, Q Cubed, I was just wondering... Do you eat dogs in Korea? I heard that authentic Asian food often involves animals very unfamiliar to us or animals that we do not consume. Horses, dogs, squid, etc.

i'm fvcking sick of people asking me that, KoR. not mad at you, just very very tired of it. why? because i don't eat dog. nor do most of the people i know in korea. in fact, eating dog is pretty much a country thing, and not very popular in the urban centers-- where most koreans reside.
look: it's not just the backwater koreans that eat dogs. the chinese do too. not only that, it's a special breed of dog, one raised as livestock. but again, most koreans don't eat dog; fish is king, followed by beef, pork, and chicken; squid and other "exotic" meats like octopi, cuttlefish, and sea urchin are also favored.

koreans, as far as i know, don't eat horses.

squid is good.

What does dog taste like?

like i said, most koreans--including me-- don't eat dog, nor have ever tried it.
how the fvck should i know?

And what is chop suey?

that's a chinese dish, you pr1ck.

be careful what you say, you came dangerously close to coming off as a racist with your comment there. i'll forgive you--this time--and only because i have such a low opinion of your intellect. after all, i can't exactly hold an utterly ignorant ****** responsible for every piece of sh1t that comes out of his mouth now, can i?

Maybe I'l go to McDonalds.

they have mcdonald's in korea, in case you didn't know. it's second to another fast food place, lotteria.
you could have perfectly western food if you went there.
but then, if you travel to another country, why would you?

[siredgar]

Thanks to King of Rasslin, a serious discussion on Korea's history and culture has degenerated into babbling of inane racist commentary and nonsensical innuendo: dog meat, chop suey, etc. I knew from the beginning not to engage in what appeared to be obvious trolling, but I see now that it is just an idiot. There is no need to be polite anymore, Q Cubed, and I don't think that any of you should continue a discussion with this person. I'm saddened that a good thread has turned into a complete waste of space on this forum.

[King of Rasslin]

Siredgar, what exactly have you contributed? Hey, I did know that Koreans used chop sticks! Most Asians do, but I did know one thing. I just checked out Food Lion, Ingles, and Wal-Mart and they didn't have any squid, kangaroo, or emu meat.

I'm going to try dog meat someday just to say I know more about Korean culture than any of you. Even Q Cubed hasn't tryed any yet! I'm not trying to be rude, I'm really curious as to why they eat such unfamiliar foods, however...

I did hear that horse meat is selling well in Germany because of fear of mad cow disease. It isn't just Asians that eat weird food, so it isn't being racist, ok? Chop suey is a System of a Down song, and it was played a lot on MTV a while ago. MTV doesn't show anything remotely racist, so I didn't know it was that offensive. BTW, that song owns!

Where do you buy this cultural food? I seriously haven't seen it anywhere, so I'm not alone in not knowing about it!

Thai food is really spicy, I heard, and garlic is in Italian food a lot. What's the flavor of Korean food?

[King of Rasslin]

[quote] "Chop Suey Was Invented, Fact or Fiction?
August 29, 1896
Have you ever eaten chop suey? The origin of this Chinese-American dish is a bit of a mystery. Legend has it that, while he was visiting New York City, Chinese ambassador Li Hung Chang's cooks invented the dish for his American guests at a dinner on August 29, 1896. Composed of celery, bean sprouts, and meat in a tasty sauce, the dish was supposedly created to satisfy both Chinese and American tastes. The Chinese diplomat was trying to create good relations with the U.S. And you know the old saying, "The way to a person's heart is through his or her stomach!"" [quote]

I found this at a web site. It is a Chinese dish, but Korea is awfully close to China. I didn't mean to be racist, but this is a real recipe. You didn't have to call me a pr1ck over it...