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**Wernazuma III** · January 15, 2002, 16:32

The forum isn't really alive, is it?

**Va-Toran** · January 15, 2002, 17:41

Try posting the poll in the general forum, where people will see it.

**Eye Of Moron** · January 20, 2002, 09:34

Personally I think of the Mongols more as Scientific, Industrious.

HARHARHAR.

**Wernazuma III** · January 20, 2002, 13:04

This seems to come to a close tie between Steuf's and my suggestion. They're not too different anyway...

**Ecthy** · January 20, 2002, 14:10

I thought we had figured out there is absolutely no reason to think Poles are scientific, so I vote for the only list that doesn't make them a scientific civ

**Ecthy** · January 20, 2002, 14:11

edit: sorry, did some mistakes... anyway, Poles should be in just for cultural fairness between European peoples and ethnicities

make them industrious and erm militarisitc I say

**Saxman** · January 21, 2002, 06:41

Perhaps you'd get more replies if you could just list the main differences between the various options, rather than all the combinations. As someone who lurks on the forum, I don't really want to have to spend several minutes working out the implications of each list.

Just a thought.

Be seeing you,

Saxman

**Wernazuma III** · January 31, 2002, 16:58

*bump*

**Oligarf** · February 3, 2002, 09:47

I agree with Saxman, I lost the overview, mostly because the four lists look very much like each other.

**Wernazuma III** · February 3, 2002, 10:39

first post changed

**Oligarf** · February 3, 2002, 13:46

thanks, now I were able to vote

**Blaupanzer** · February 4, 2002, 17:41

Copernicus was a Pole (and the world's greatest astronomer). Although I am not of Polish origen, their history is very much one of Fire and Glass, i.e., war and research. The Poland of the Middle Ages was a great power while England and France were still fighting among themselves. They were crushed by the unifying powers of Russia, Prussia, and Austria, in the early industrial age, but are as much a civ as so many others suggested here.

Needless to say, voted for Stefu's list. He got Poles ande Turks right, in my view.

**Wernazuma III** · February 4, 2002, 18:18

-thus you voted for the only option that does NOT have Scientific Poles?

Va-Toran's list	4.76%	1 vote
jsw363's list	9.52%	2 votes
Stefu's list	47.62%	10 votes
Wernazuma III's list	38.10%	8 votes

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