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I think that Joan of Arc was a weak choice for the Leader of the French, a was curious as to what others thought. My choice is Napoleon.
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140Napoleon!55.71%78Louis XIV!15.00%21Charles DeGaulle!3.57%5Charlemagne!8.57%12Keep it Joan of Arc!16.43%23Other0.71%1"The great rule of conduct for us in regard to foreign nations is to have with them as little political connection as possible... It is our true policy to steer clear of permanent alliances with any portion of the foreign world, so far as we are now at liberty to do it." George Washington- September 19, 1796 -
Has to be Napoleon, I loved him in that old Bugs Bunny cartoon
The eagle soars and flies in peace and casts its shadow wide Across the land, across the seas, across the far-flung skies. The foolish think the eagle weak, and easy to bring to heel. The eagle's wings are silken, but its claws are made of steel. So be warned, you would-be hunters, attack it and you die, For the eagle stands for freedom, and that will always fly.
Darkness makes the sunlight so bright that our eyes blur with tears. Challenges remind us that we are capable of great things. Misery sharpens the edges of our joy. Life is hard. It is supposed to be. -
Joan of Arc reversed the fate of an entire war through her leadership.
Napoleon though got his ass kicked twice.
I don't think this is really a challenge
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i like de gaullePrince of...... the Civ Mac ForumComment
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Clovis."When all else fails, a pigheaded refusal to look facts in the face will see us through." -- General Sir Anthony Cecil Hogmanay MelchettComment
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No, no, no! NOT Napolean! Sure, he did some memorable things, but the most memorable man in French history is none other than Charles de Gaulle!
A few things you just have to love about Charles de Gaulle:
-- Fought the Germans in WWI
-- Led the Free French through the Nazi occupation
-- Became the first President of the Fifth Republic
-- Solved France's foreign policy woes
-- Unilaterally withdrew France from NATO
Among other awesome things!
He was a true patriot and an excellent statesman. He's a hero to the French and he's truly a man to admire for his strength and courage from WWI until his death in 1970. Go, de Gaulle, go!I swear, by my life and my love of it...
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Wait, what about Cardinal Richelieu?
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Definetly Louis XIV- it was during his time that France as we know it acquired its identity. (Well........ at least arguably so)Comment
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Richelieu! Wretch, that's a great call!
But Joan IS the patron saint of France. Historians debate whether she was an actual great leader or some kind of living propaganda/good luck charm. But either way, her influence definitely prompted a major change in in the history of what we now call France. (Personally, I think she was what we'd call schizophrenic nowadays. In her time, there wasn't much to be done about that.)
In the same vein, why Abraham Lincoln? Why not George Washington?Comment
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I remember a comic strip I saw in MAD magazine.
Servant: Charles de Gaulle is the greatest man in France!
de Gaulle: That ees so.
Servant: Charles de Gaulle is the greatest man in THE WORLD!
de Gaulle: That ees so..
Servant: Why, only GOD is greater than you!
de Gaulle: *look of utter shock*
Servant: *Imprisoned* What did I say? WHAT DID I SAY!?Comment
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No doubt about this one, Joan of Arc should defently stay in the game
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Amazing
THIS is really amazingOriginally posted by IncreduloDriver
the most memorable man in French history is none other than Charles de Gaulle! Sure, nice statesman, but not deserving all the honours he is credited. That's just boosted by nationalistic feelings (AGAINST Germans, AGAINST Americans -NATO-, France superpower, France nuclear power, "vive la grandeur". When you get beaten and you are clearly not the best anymore, it hurts).
Joan D'Arc. I mean, every nation which frees itself from external control (AGAINST the English, this time) tend to "stretch" hystory records in order to exalt some wannabe heroes, and to stress its "unicity", "holiness" and moral superiority. You just look for the more viable "flag".
On the other hand...
Napoleon showing how to rule an army to the entire Europe? He was a (superb) military leader most of all, but... he diffused the ideals of the French Revolution everywhere he went, putting the seeds of democracy, freedom, equality and national identity everywhere in the old continent.
Charlemagne!!! History lessons, anyone? He just:
1) produced a (short lived, but immensely important) EMPIRE in Europe after centuries of barbarism, setting the new course of european "politics";
2) christianized (with sword, blood and deaths, I agree) the Germans, taking them into european cultural mainstream;
3) contributed stopping forever Arab penetration in Europe from Spain, setting the future of Europe far from Islam,
4) started a cultural "renaissance" (again, short lived) in Aachen, his capital.
5) ...
As you guessed, I voted for Charlemagne
The ice was here, the ice was there, the ice was all around: it cracked and growled and roared and howled like noises in a swound!Comment
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Charlemagne. Starting an empire that (briefly) civilized Europe for the first time in centuries is no small feat. Besides, the French love the guy.
Even though it's not an option, Laetitia Casta would make a nice leader...
Or did they already put her in as a war leader?
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Napoleon, in the spirit of civ 1.It's candy. Surely there are more important things the NAACP could be boycotting. If the candy were shaped like a burning cross or a black man made of regular chocolate being dragged behind a truck made of white chocolate I could understand the outrage and would share it. - DrosedarsComment
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